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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    That may well be the next excuse he tries for not releasing the Epstein files, but it wasn`t why he changed his desperate attempts to block their release two days before the House vote.

    It was the realization that so many Republican member were going to vote to release due to pressure from their own MAGA supporters. He went from leading MAGA too running to catch up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Looks very much a case of desperate times requiring desperate measures, which only adds to the suspicion that there is something in that file that has him now **** himself more than usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I can't say I'm all that enthused myself. But the fact of the matter is that there's nobody else even close to being a realistic runner. Sure, there's some time yet. But at the moment he looks like the only real possible ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,929 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it's a big part of why he's having his social media team go so hard after Trump; he's staking his claim early and putting himself in the forefront of voters minds in terms of who is really standing up to Trump.

    It's why I don't rate him too highly. It'll probably work to get him the nomination and maybe even the Presidency, but he'll likely end up as more of the same once he's there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Jesus focking christ, in a normal country that would see disbarments and possible prosecutions. These muppets will probably be promoted



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Doc07


    more of the same…as in more of the same like Trump? Genuine question, are you serious or having a laugh ?
    He may have his faults and some of the social media is juvenile but I must have missed where he has behaved like an immoral scumbag similar to Trump ,defender of murdering journalists for example, during his current term as governor of California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,224 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    on the who the dems should run talk, I understand they won’t and why but Pete Buttigeg would do a great job. He’s a great speaker, intelligent and witty and is likeable.
    he’d make a very good clean cut president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    How likely is it that Patel/Bondi/FBI have scrubbed the files so Trump doesn’t feature?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,929 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh God no, I meant more of the same as the Dems, as in he won't be much different to the likes of Schumer, Pelosi, Biden, Jeffries. They can be steady hands to right the ship for a while, but also ineffective at implementing real change, ineffective at really addressing the systems which are causing huge inequalities, cosying up to their own donors, and ultimately leaving the door wide open for the next Trump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,209 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Thing's is, you could see them full on shredding stuff prior to today. Plus knowing Trump, all kinds of rules are being flouted in terms of it being tamper proof.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,135 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The vast majority of people in the US don't want their state to become like California, let alone the country. The fact that California is seen as a bit of a basket case currently is the main thing going against him. I dont see how he can seperate himself from that, given that he is basically the poster child for so many policies that the average person sees as crazy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,520 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    California has the highest GDP of all US states. I think plenty of people would love to have its booming creative and tech industries rather than being backwaters like Mississippi.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Could the timing of the latest BS USA peace proposal for Ukraine be linked to these files?

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    LOL, is this a joke? Most Americans in Magaville (Trumpian states) would sell their livers to be able to swap their wooden hut draped in the Confederate flag for a simple apartment in California. Or not even California, but somewhere with a Walmart that is still open within a 100 mile radius.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭Field east


    INO ‘Somebody’ has done ‘something’ re the possible releasing of the Epstein files to make sure that their release will be held up for as long as possible. Trump did not do a U turn without some strategy having been thought out re throwing the ‘proverbial spanner’ in the works..

    We must not forget that he has the choice of ‘two sets of laws’ to choose from ie Trump’s laws - made up as he goes along -and the official set of laws



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Translation -

    I don't know exactly what "woke" is, but I don't like it, and I've read on Twitter that California is woke, so I'm sure all of America is just like me and doesn't want what Newsome is selling!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    No, the "peace proposal" is just a continuation of the Russian deflection campaign. Putin sent some guy to talk with Witkoff, they came up with some idiotic 28 point plan on how Ukraine must surrender and now Zelensky is forced to go to Turkey to listen to these proposals to keep Trump from blaming Ukraine not engaging with the "peace process".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,209 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Thank God you've got the perfectly normal rapist in charge who was only yesterday downplaying the murder of a Saudi journalist as he bowed before the killers. Trump is the poster child for basket cases. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be avoiding all these topics if it was Biden. 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,191 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    "People are saying" kids are going in to school in the morning and coming home a few hours later completely transgendered.

    Post edited by kowloon on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,135 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Not really. Economy, great. Culture, great. It's more the high taxes, high gas prices, insane regulations, high housing costs, massive homeless problem, crime and other things that put people off those policies. This is what people think about california, and Im sure other people who live in the US would agree that thats the general opinion. He'll have to work to distance himself from the policies that created these issues. That's a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 654 ✭✭✭pad406


    'Love' the fact sheet section 😮Morons one and all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    as expected.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Economics101


    "The weird thing is that so much fragmentation still exists within the Dems" Get real: the US is hugely diverse: what gets Memdani elected in New York would be a sure loser in Virginia or Many districts in other states. Any party which hopes to get a majority in Congress will have to have candidates which match the differing preferences of different districts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Which, to my mind, makes her knowingly and presently an aider and abettor to those who engaged in human trafficking for profit and to those who were convicted in U.S courts of rape and sexual assault. If Bondi wants to engage in the paid time as the U.S. Attorney General in that, and stand as a wall between Trump and the victims, then she is fair game for the victims of those convicted of the above offences.

    Let the victims and their lawyers take her to court and fill her daily docket with criminal and civil charges against her on those charges and of dereliction of duty and misdemeanour charges relevant to her misuse of public office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,686 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The government was shut down so the data likely wasn't captured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,520 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's not that. Don't get me wrong, the US is obviously very, very diverse but that's not why the Democrats are fragmented. The problem with US politics is that it's a two party system and it remains so because of the colossal amount of resources, logistics and organisation required to run a national party there.

    The Democrats and the Republicans were founded in 1828 and 1854 respectively. The Democrats were founded before the USA conquered several Mexican provinces, including California.

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    Each party is an impossibly broad coalition that you just wouldn't see anywhere in Europe. Their closest relatives are the Labour and Conservative parties of the United Kingdom.

    With the Republicans, you have social conservatives, libertarians, capital, devout Christians and people who just want tax breaks. With the Democrats, there are LGBT people, non-white groups, socialists, the public sector, liberals and maybe some small c conservatives. Obviously, these are broad generalisations but the point is that they are massive entities and neither one will split. The problem for progressives is that their bloc is much more fragmented and less cohesive whereas the Republicans rarely need to worry about splitting their vote.

    Starting a new party and taking it national is effectively impossible. If you can get Elon or one of the lads to cut you a check and you've a wide array of high quality candidates, you might make some inroads but too many stars need to align for that to happen.

    Any kind of progressive change will come from the Democrats. It's just how things are and they're not changing.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,209 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Still sort of distant from the terrible associations of the current president.... It's pretty noticeable that Trump supporters are avoiding discussing what's most prominent for Trump atm. Personally not a fan of Newsom for entirely separate reasons. But Trump's second term is even more plagued with scandals than his first term and his supporters are absolutely dodging it.



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