New thread as the last thread seems to be broken.
Beating Portugal by 2 and Ronaldo getting sent off for being a btch.
Coming from behind twice away and winning with a last minute goal and a first ever away hat-trick.
It's totally unrealistic Ted Lasso stuff.
It's difficult to know since other teams will gain points also, but if we assume no other team gains points (false assumption), then we'll move from 62nd to 57th.
So no chance of climbing above any of the current pot C predictions.
Not sure. Albania I guess.
It's good though in general.
We should really be in the 40s at a minimum.
Kenny's reign screwed our ranking.
Why are Wales in pot 2 despite being 3rd in their group ?
Should that not go tk Macedonia and someone else move up tk the Nations League spot ?
we’re top of pot c. It’s pot b we are trying to get into. The UEFA rankings decide the pots. The fifa rankings are a different thing and that’s what’s being talked about.
to get into pot b we need north Macedonia to get something in wales and we need to Austria to beat Bosnia in Vienna. I think anyway, maybe we need NM to beat wales but don’t think so
I missed both matches so now I can't watch any more games since I'm obviously the jinx.
Yep and people trying to claim that Kenny tanking our ranking didn't matter. Nows the cost.
Scumbag and Bigot? how so?
do we need both results or just one to go out way ?
I really think we're just a CM and an AM/10 from being a good team.
I wonder if any of the U17s could step up in 2 or 3 years maybe.
both
Who’s our long term right back?
We went from 34th to 58th during his reign.
A disaster. I like him though.
We should've just stuck with Mick.
O'Brien plays there for Everton although he's a giant.
it served a purpose as it showed the off the ball and second captains crowds and their disciples that Ireland were not good at the beautiful game but HH’s reign has showed us we should stick to what we are good at.
He brought through Ogbene as well but beyond that almost all of the players he brought through that have stuck around in the HH reign were obvious call ups
Extremely hopeful. I think the primary reason for their success this far is a few of them have played a decent amount of men's football.
nah, he isn’t a right back long term. Not one that remotely replace what Coleman brings
They're very talented in the forwards area at least.
Umeh is the big talent I guess.
I guess Wales are marginal favourites to get 2nd in the group, so people are working on the 'most likely' situation.
Both are guaranteed a play-off spot either as 2nd in group, or via NL.
Wales v Macedonia in final game (Wales need win).
It doesn't take a genius to pick the panel or team even.
Very small pool of players playing at a decent level.
Some people are deluded when it comes to the LOI. Saying it's L1 level.
It's the level of the National League in England. Would any other country hire a manager from that level?
We should've stuck with Mick really. Pair him up with a young modern coach.
A lot being made of the Hungarian time wasting coming back to bite them in spoppage time.
Surely this is par for the course from most teams. A couple of subs….. a fella rolling around on the ground after minimal contact… jogging very slowly to take a corner etc.
We would have been at the same thing if the tables were turned.
It was more to do with crappy defending when it mattered most, letting Liam Scales get that header away and letting Troy ghost in to get just enough on it.
They would have known after the Dublin tie that this was going to be the way it would play out against an Ireland team.
Easy to know, harder to do something about it in the 96th minute, I guess.
Does the FAI get any extra dosh for making the play offs?
Everton transition to a back 3 in possession and the left back pushes forward, so I guess he's not a traditional right back.
Ogbene can play RWB.
Abankwah can play there also but he's primarily a CB.
But you're correct.
Albania beat Andorra and lost to England while we beat two sides above us so that we should should go above Albania. The danger is Wales or Bosnia beating Macedonia or Austria. They'd jump us into pot 2.
As it stands assuming we jump Albania we'd be the 4th team in Pot 2.
Now
Wales are playing for a home semi-final. Win and they go from the Nations League Pot 4 into Pot 2. Loose and they stay in Pot 4.
Its the same for Macedonia in that win or loose they are in the play-off's. BUT crucially (for us) Macedonia are guaranteed to be away, they shouldn't jump us in the new rankings so even a win will keep them in Pot 3. A loss they go to Pot 4.
If Bosnia beat Austria they'll win the group sending Austria into the play-offs. Bosnia would then naturally leave the draw alltogether and Austria would enter the play-offs. Austria would go into Pot 1 and push Poland into Pot 2, and Ireland into Pot 3.
If Wales AND Bosnia both win both ourselves and Slovakia go from Pot 2 to Pot 3.
We could do with a better centre back too.
Our ranking is going to cost us. Most likely an away semi final. Kenny time is going to cost us dearly now. Still though this team have shown that anything is achievable. However the mind set can be different in this scenario. Against Hungary we just had to win, whereas a semi final will go to ET and penalties. Being away from home in ET or penalties you are at a disadvantage.
Right now they're in pot 4 (as they'd be qualifying via the nations league route) with north Macedonia are in pot 3.
If Wales beat them tomorrow night, North Macedonia would drop into pot 4 (they're the next in line for the last nation's league spot) but Wales fifa ranking will put them into pot 2 bumping everyone beneath them down a spot.
He's a rough diamond.
That's our strongest area.
Are there any good midfielders in the under 17s or 19s or 21s?
