Israel/Palestine Thread

Ash.J.Williams · 21-10-2025 06:00PM

All ya need to know about trumps peace plan is they've labeled no kings day participants "hamas supporters" says it all

Spudmonkey · 21-10-2025 06:24PM

Israel still murdering throughout the ceasefire. Getting very close to 70k (known, although thats probably bullshit) at this stage..

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Sure hope that lad arrested for antagonizing protesters is OK though. Thoughts go out to Maccabi fans as well for the turmoil they must be going through.

Thoughts and prayers to all involved..

tayto lover · 21-10-2025 06:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925190#Comment_123925190

Disobeying what he was told to do by the policeman and continually going over to the opposition taunting them with his SoD was indeed provocative. So YES.

dmcdona · 21-10-2025 07:01PM

I can imagine the Israelis being apoplectic about Turkey being involved.

Notable that even the US don't trust alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) - especially after his stunt in Qatar.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance landed in Israel and visited the U.S. headquarters tasked with maintaining the cease-fire, the Civil-Military Coordination Center (CMCC). Vance is also expected to meet with Israeli President Herzog and former hostages. Speaking at a press conference, Vance said the U.S. was "not going to force anything" on Israel regarding foreign troops on the ground in Gaza, but added that Turkey has a "constructive" role to play.
Citing sources in the Trump administration, the New York Times reported that Vance's two-day visit is meant to ensure that Netanyahu does not violate the cease-fire and launch another offensive in Gaza. The sources have become increasingly concerned that the PM will derail the deal.

blanch152 · 21-10-2025 07:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925635#Comment_123925635

Were the Palestinians tortured and kneecapped by Hamas also guilty of provocation?

dmcdona · 21-10-2025 07:03PM

More evidence that Israel is under a short US leash and won't be allowed to derail the fragile peace.

"Instead of airing the opening session of the Knesset on Monday, Israeli TV studios should have broadcast the 60 Minutes interview with U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner.

The Knesset may be more entertaining, but it is irrelevant.

The real decisions shaping Israelis' fate are being made in Washington.

The envoys' message from the interview was clear: they are managing the situation closely and will not allow the cease-fire to collapse.

The incidents in Gaza that followed the broadcast showed that in practice"

Chaim Levinson

Sudden Valley · 21-10-2025 07:04PM

Whats with the non sequiturs? The activist was obviously telling lies about why he was arrested. As a lawyer he should know better.

tayto lover · 21-10-2025 07:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925655#Comment_123925655

Have you finally lost it Blanch ?? That doesn't make any kind of sense. Next thing you'll be saying that the starving kids murdered while queueing for food were a threat to the IDF.

dmcdona · 21-10-2025 07:08PM

Seems Israel can't bear to wind down the starvation of Gazans - a breach of the deal of course.

Israel exterminated 20,000 students - seems the rebuilding of Gaza and Palestine is going to take a long time.

Around 750 metric tons of food are now entering the Strip daily, the UN World Food Program said, adding that this amount still falls short of its daily target of 2,000 tons. "To be able to get to this scale-up, we have to use every border crossing point right now," a WFP spokesperson told a Geneva press briefing, noting that only two of Israeli-controlled crossings into Gaza are currently operational, Kerem Shalom in the south and Kissufim in the center.

The Palestinian Education Ministry in Ramallah said that the number of students killed in Gaza since October 7, 2023, has risen to more than 19,910.

tayto lover · 21-10-2025 07:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925230#Comment_123925230

Haha the most one-sided '' neutral '' on Boards.

dePeatrick · 21-10-2025 07:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925663#Comment_123925663

He was a lawyer, Well then he can sue the met for … doing their job? 😂

blanch152 · 21-10-2025 07:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925675#Comment_123925675

I am not the one blaming victims.

tayto lover · 21-10-2025 07:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925688#Comment_123925688

So a clown being provocative and refusing a police order thus getting himself arrested is now a victim.? No wonder you're on the wrong side Blanch with that logic.

dmcdona · 21-10-2025 07:13PM

Netanyahu's hollybop destinations grows ever smaller.

Isn't it gas that the Israeli Govt think it's perfectly normal for countries to "welcome" an alleged War Criminal. They're not quite reading the room…

Canada is prepared to honor the International Criminal Court's warrant to arrest Netanyahu if he enters the country, Canadian PM Carney said in an interview published last week by Bloomberg.

An Israeli government spokesperson told reporters that Carney "should, of course, reconsider this" and welcome Netanyahu, "the leader of the only Jewish state and democratic country in the Middle East, to Canada," Israeli government spokesperson Shosh Bedrosian told reporters.

tayto lover · 21-10-2025 07:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925695#Comment_123925695

Canada should take a leaf out of Israel's playbook by inviting him over and then arresting him.

SafeSurfer · 21-10-2025 07:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925655#Comment_123925655

Ah, look who cares about the torture of Palestinians.

ArthurDayne · 21-10-2025 07:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123924410#Comment_123924410

But you have already said that Hamas had no chance of winning a war against Israel, so it seems strange to me that you are now also saying that Israel — under no existential threat from Hamas by your own admission — had no other alternative than the wholesale destruction of Gaza, the slaughter of tens of thousands of people, and the creation of a horrendous humanitarian crisis. I mean, which is it?

Israel apparently has a right to defend itself with extreme offensive action against an enemy that stands no chance against it — a right which extends to mass killing of civilians — but apparently no such equivalent right or justification exists for any form of Palestinian resistance. This is in the context where it is Palestinians who clearly have much more reason to fear the destruction of their civilisation than Israel does, and much more reason to believe that such destruction is demonstrably ongoing. And if you justify Israel's killing of children en masse by reference to some vague notion that they had no other alternative strategy, then why is it not equally valid for the people whose civilisation is under far greater threat to rely on similar justification?

Ultimately, it seems to me that your understanding of the right to defend oneself is predicated more so on the might to defend oneself. And that's why ultimately the discrepancy you demonstrate as regards the Palestinian violence versus Israeli violence arises.

dePeatrick · 21-10-2025 08:45PM

Wonder where this will lead?

SafeSurfer · 21-10-2025 09:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123926056#Comment_123926056

Anywhere British troops have gone they have brought peace so I would be optimistic.

dePeatrick · 21-10-2025 09:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123926167#Comment_123926167

I hope so but not as optomistic.

kowloon · 21-10-2025 09:25PM

Are they going to support the Gaza ceasefire using the same methods as Israel?

ZeroThreat · 21-10-2025 09:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123926167#Comment_123926167

Maybe they sent members of the Para regiment. What could possibly go wrong?…

AugustRain · 21-10-2025 10:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925794#Comment_123925794

is it not the IDFs fault that Hamas are knee capping the starving genocided Palestinians?

SafeSurfer · 21-10-2025 10:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123926508#Comment_123926508

The IDF are arming criminal gangs in Gaza and killed the police (a war crime) destroyed the courts and destroyed the jails but in my view the ones pulling the trigger or dropping the bombs are responsible for the people they kill.
Do you agree?

comerla · 22-10-2025 04:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123920266#Comment_123920266

אתה מבזבז את זמנך כאן. אנחנו יודעים מה אתה.

comerla · 22-10-2025 05:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123925199#Comment_123925199

stop conflating antizionism with antisemitism

Brendan Bendar · 22-10-2025 05:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123926708#Comment_123926708

I’m not..

Miniegg · 22-10-2025 07:13AM

So in fairness, alot of talk on this thread about what is antisemetic and what isn't.

The ADL guidelines don't seem to apply anymore, so in the shifting sands of what is antisemetic or not, I've compiled a list of what is vs what isn't. I hope I got most of them ..I wonder can we sticky them so we know what we are allowed to agree with and what we aren't

Things that are antisemetic
Ireland
The Irish
Michael d higgins
Simon Harris
Norway
The Norwegians
Spain
The Spanish
The BBC
South Africa
South Africans
The Muslims
The UN
MSF
OXFAM
ASTON VILLA
The ICC
The ICJ
Pro Palestinian groups
Macron
France
The French
The IPC
Italian dock workers
GRETA THURNBERG
Flotillas
Arguing about giving aid to Gazans
Amnesty
The IRA
Human rights watch
Action Aid
International Human Rights
British Midlands Police
Kneecap
The Left

The Right

The Centre

The previous Pope

Marxists
Bt selem
Ehud Olmert
International law
Un Human rights council
Colleges
Universities
Feed the children
UNICEF
Glastonbury
Heeretz

Things that are NOT antisemetic anymore
Modern Fascists
The Far Right
National populism
Anti immigration groups
NI Loyalists and Loyalist terror groups
Conflating "the Jews" with policies of Israels government
Hive minding Jews
Saying Jews aren't native to their native countries

Billionaires who seig heil

wildgreen · 22-10-2025 07:16AM

Aid only trickling through. It would be so easy for an international military force to be deployed at crossings and force the aid through past settlers and zionist scum.

The UN’s International Court of Justice is expected to issue an advisory opinion today on Israel’s responsibility to facilitate aid in Gaza.

The Hague-based court’s anticipated ruling comes after the UN asked it to clarify Israel’s obligations, as an occupying power, towards the UN and other bodies “including to ensure and facilitate the unhindered provision of urgently needed supplies essential to the survival” of Palestinians.

Israel, which has repeatedly cut off or heavily restricted aid in the Strip throughout the war, effectively banned the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), the main provider of aid to Gaza, earlier this year.

Yesterday, the Gaza media office said just 986 trucks have entered Gaza since the latest ceasefire, significantly short of the 6,600 trucks intended to have entered by Monday.

wildgreen · 22-10-2025 07:20AM

Germany still using administrative bureaucracy as excuse for not assisting Palestinian children in need of medical care. Germany really has emerged from the shadows of the last 80 years.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20251021-germany-refusing-to-allow-entry-to-injured-children-from-gaza/

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