Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

If it fits, why would he?

This is a discussion board, where we offer opinions, and more importantly, try to persuade each other why those opinions are correct or worth considering. Not just to persuade, but also (if we're open-minded enough) perhaps to learn. If we're just shouting opinions at each other without listening, there isn't much point. And the fact is, people here are listening, and are trying to understand, what you are saying.

One way we respond to what we hear is to label it in some way. If someone is suggesting something clearly unhinged, we may label it as a conspiracy theory, if something sounds very libertarian it may be labelled as (say) an Ayn Rand fantasy, and so on. Don't pretend you don't do the same - you are clearly putting a lot of other posters' opinions into a box labelled "crazy dangerous LEFT group-think".

The labeling isn't a necessarily a problem - it can be a quick way of getting an initial handle on something. The important part is to be able to justify that label, and to dig a little deeper into why that label applies, and what it signifies. Otherwise labels can be lazy shortcuts that prevent us from thinking more deeply. If I label your opinion as "more crazy MAGA nonsense" without trying to figure out why you have the opinions you do, I'm missing a chance to learn something. If you don't make the effort to explain, and to understand where other posters are coming from, then while you may get a little endorphin hit from "owning the libs" each time you post, you're not really making any real connections with other people either.

Often we don't understand our own positions until we try to explain them to someone else. Sometimes hard or challenging questions can help us better understand what we think, and it can also help us develop our ideas - and sometimes that can mean accepting that we may need to adjust and adapt our original ideas, or maybe even re-evaluate our original starting point. And that's a good thing, if we can be humble enough to take advantage of it.

Bit of light relief, if not entirely political, though you could wonder why US Presidents have to bring their own helicopter to other countries. The arrival of Trump's helicopter inside a massive, gravity defying slug of a plane, seeing it hatch a rotor-less half assembled egg of a helicopter, which appears to grow legs like a fat beetle, and with a massive umbilical cord (yes, I know) of trailers, is worth watching. The main action starts around 9 minutes, and a cameraman apparently goes A over T at about 20 minutes.

Security. Armed special forces all around every single bit of that thing every moment its not on US soil.

So nobody can modify it.