That won’t happen IMO. But it is technically possible as it would be with any car brand i also mentioned I suppose.
I think the question being asked was really a jibe about burgeoning Tesla forecourts/lots (i.e. unsold cars) masked as a question, and I don't think the poster understands the landscape locally, whatever about elsewhere in Europe where Tesla is not doing as well right now.
@maidhc You understand that Musk doesn't own Tesla, right? He does own X and yes he could close its doors and wrap it all up should he care to. But not the case for Tesla - at the moment at least.
To be honest, if Musk left Tesla I think the company would perform better if anything, so the exact opposite feeling to you. Weird eh?
FSD in the UK for the guys following it.
https://x.com/teslaeurope/status/1948693477069304265?s=46
exactly - people forget how niche some of these brands are, given their relative publicity over the past 5-6 years - if you’re a polestar owner, of any model, you’re one of 850 people in Ireland to ever buy one.
I think Tesla is showing all the hallmarks of a company run by a despot who lost interest in its strategic direction as a car company 5 years ago. I can only imagine what a later day Lee Iacocca or Carlos Ghosn could do if they took the reigns.
I have full Seplos V3 build, wiring and installation videos on YouTube already. I'm planning a Version 4 build this weekend and that will be up soon, with discount codes.
So a backtrack basically.
No worries.
Tesla has always been a multi faceted Company and that is and has been its strategy, so its overly simplistic to link it to purely being a car Company, a view that is reflected in the PE ratio which factors in embedded future value for other revenue sources (whether achievable or not is entirely a different question)
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What they sell.
They seem to be doing well from that alright. Thankfully they have stayed away from half arsed hybrids and stick to their guns with BEV. There’s only a Few companies like that around nowadays.
no, they just stopped rational new product development in 2020 or so… remember the gigacastings, the 4680 battery development, the model 3, the S…. And now old blather about a boggo spec MY being the best they can actually bring to market.
The autonomy and robot stuff is pure pie in the sky vaporware to sustain an unsustainable share price. It will go bang, and it’s a shame as Tesla will be looked upon as being the biggest historical upset to the motor industry since Henry’s model T.
Separate the cars from the pie in the sky stuff.
I know, but there is no sign of any new cars which is the only saleable thing the company makes.
Henry Ford lost his way in a similar way, he assumed mild updates of the model T is all anyone would ever want and got a bit distracted building tractors in Cork and creating Fordlandia… His successors got things back on track though.
I hear ya but what are they gona produce? Their cheapest car is already the same price as VW Hatch back offering (ID3). To do a cheaper car they’d have to be mid to late 20’s otherwise the M3 will gobble up the sales.
They need a hatch back to cement long term grounding. but they also need more service centres on the ground to capture new buyers. Like what Polestar have just done in Sandyford.
Anyone have any idea what Tesla pull in every month from the €10 a vehicle charge for the "premium connectivity" package?
I'm presuming it's a fair chunk of change considering the amount of them on the road worldwide.
Not sure. But there is loads that don’t pay it and just tether their phone.
Just use your phone as a hotspot.
Probably will do that going forward!!
Pain in the hoop tethering the phone. I like the access on the APP no matter where car is parked.
To me the €10 is worth it. I dont think that tethering the phone gives all the functionality that the premium connectivity gives.
I was surprised that that in the US they can buy an annual subscription ($99) at a discount, but we cant.
Their semi-truck sales are pathetic, but they do/have sold them
Bots aren't ready, but I don't like popcorn anyway.
Robotaxis. Don't know what the plan is there. Will it be just a Tesla thing, or will they sell to third parties?
They do sell solar. Not here, but they sell it.
I'd say they've done alright so far.
USD 11.2bn in sales/Revenues (Q1+Q2 2025) from energy/storage and services seems a material chunk of sales. Ongoing R&D into the products under development is significant cost but always a ramp up investment period before commercial sales. Whether you believe that these products in development (Robotaxi, Optimus, FSD) have potential is another matter (Share Price and PE seem to suggest others believe embedded potential outside cars) but overly simplistic to say "cars are only saleable things the company makes".
https://insideevs.com/news/767000/tesla-fsd-outperforms-chinese-brands/
May be of interest
Didn't watch it but this is the summary:
With some tests done in the pitch black dark. Not surprising to me, but might surprise a lot of folk in here who have always claimed lidar is a must thus Tesla's system can never work
it also said…
“It also didn’t cover all driving conditions, such as adverse weather, where experts say lidar could be crucial, instead of just relying on cameras.”
The model X also failed that “pitch black” test. I wonder why? 🤔
So it’s not definitive one way or the other. Just one set of tests.
Yeah €10 is an amazing price, anything more and it wpuld make you think.
I used fo thether on my Skoda because it was something like €30 pm with a ridiculously low data limt of 5gb or something.
I'm very happy to pay €10 to ve able to just get on the car and go.
With 0% tariff I see no point keeping German plant open. Maybe maybe model 3 price might go down but brand is toxic now
Bit of overlap sorry, didn't know an easy way to neatly merge that
And remember this was a test done in China. By a Chinese organisation. Extremely unlikely the non-Chinese cars would get a positive bias 😂 Pity not more non-Chinese EVs were tested
Xpeng G6 is about the best excluding the Teslas. I drove it myself testing the ADAS and found it shockingly bad (apart from that a very good car)
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