Oh I totally get that. Just I want to maximise efficiency in almost everything I do regarding the house. More insulation also equals more comfort which is priceless in todays world
I'm assuming that 3k being the current install price will be dropping as time goes on making it a much more viable option. Even if the capacity drops to 50% that's still 20kWh.
I'm fully capable of an ilea flat pack assembly, not sure exactly what that has to do with wiring a battery to the house though I'd like to see these battery kits for €2k, do you have an adverts link?
It is the message that is delivered, presumably because installers want to make more on the top selling insulation etc.
If each kWh of energy spent to deliver heat was priced the same, heat pumps would be no brainers even at 2COP!
We would really need to wait for electricity prices go up and oil/gas prices come down. At the moment we have a climate emergency and the exact opposite is happening. But I do think that time will come eventually
There's many of them, this guy sells a lot of them and seems well regarded
https://www.adverts.ie/other-electronics/seplos-16kwh-solar-battery-new/36746644
I could do it a bit cheaper for any regular in here. I would build a better system, using a superior JK BMS. But it would be a personal favour. I do them privately, mainly for myself and friends, it is not a business
to actually have a functioning storage system from a standing start what do you need? a battery is one thing but what else an invertor? an electrician to get it all wired up? what could you get 25kwh installed and working for do you reckon?
That would not be a free storage battery. A better approach would be to sell the Tesla with that battery and then buy or make a brand new LiFePO4 battery for home storage
It really isn't that simple to use a high voltage car battery as home storage, nor safe in many cases. And the installers in Ireland that do these installs, ask for a lot of money to do so. Where a ready made battery is safe, lasts a lot longer and is simple plug and play (once a standard hybrid inverter is installed)
That's an interesting concept, not sure why I couldn't find them, my search terms must be too specific or not specific enough. One of the reasons I love this website to be fair!
Are you a registered electrician then? Or do you even need to be for something like this? Thinking of how it might affect the insurance and even the legalities etc.
No, and only an electrician is allowed to enter a consumer unit to install a group needed for an inverter. That's why I said "once a hybrid inverter is installed". I do not do any of that. But I do build batteries, but just for myself and friends. Basically the same as that guy does, but he does it for profit / commercially. Even if you pay what he charges, you basically get a 15kWh battery of better quality than the 5kWh off the shelf packs that official SEAI installers install, for similar money
5kWh is nowhere near enough to be able to use the 3-4 hour supercheap night rates. As most people with fresh PV / battery installs very soon after install find out 😂
The answer depends a bit. If you already have a PV system of similar power and an NC6 cert, then anyone can just change the inverter for a hybrid inverter. It is like changing an appliance. Then the battery can just be plugged into the inverter.
If you don't, it's more complicated and you need a certified electrician to install the hybrid inverter
So because you don't go near the consumer unit, only the pre-installed inverter, you are within the law… Makes sense. I assume these are more than just plug and play units and requires an amount of disassembling/reassembling etc must have a look for installation videos over the weekend because that does sound interesting
Yeah definitely the 3-4hr window is nowhere near enough for me or my ilk, I have been saying exactly that to be fair!
You'd be surprised. With a large battery, no heat pump and not doing more than about 50k km per year between your EVs, the 3h slot is adequate for most people. The savings of course from buying pretty much all your electricity for just 5-6c is huge obviously.
Maybe I'm in the wrong place … if so tell me 'where to go'
Month after month Tesla in Europe dont seem to pull in the sales level that they were hoping :(
What will they do about it ?
( asking from POV of a 'might be' MY / M3 buyer )
Why would you care?
Their sales performance would be utterly irrelevant to a buyer, unless you're hoping for a sales booster or discount? (which could happen I guess).
Their sales in Ireland at least seem to be absolutely on point though, so the chances of some discounting is pretty slim to be fair.
Nothing. Tesla don't do marketing / advertsing. TSLA is about a lot more than car sales. Car sales are soon fully electric only worldwide and it is a race to the bottom, survival of the fittest. Which will mostly be Chinese companies. Other areas that Tesla operates in have more potential for profit imho
I have just put in a limit order for today. For just under the big psychological barrier 😁
"Why would you care?"
As I dont have to buy Tesla so could give them a miss ……
"Their sales in Ireland at least seem to be absolutely on point though, so the chances of some discounting is pretty slim to be fair."
Do they normally have a parking lot full of new M3 for sale ?
So don't buy a Tesla 🤷♂️
I don't see the relevance of your question. Would you only consider buying a Tesla if loads of others were buying one?
Help us to understand what's really behind your question?
Yeah I don't understand their point either. As for falling car sales, that needs to be put into perspective. The Tesla Model Y was the best selling car (not EV!) in the world in 2023, as I predicted in 2022 to much ridicule on this forum. It was again in 2024 and could possibly be again this year.
Toyota is a strong number two (after being on top for decades up to and including 2022 with the Corolla) but unless they start making popular full EVs next year, I can't see them keeping that position for long…
I’ve a M3H ordered a week ago, currently on a ship somewhere around South Africa. That’s base spec, so not in inventory or “parking lot”.
You might be able to get one ASAP if you don’t care for a specific setup and it is in stock.
Indeed. And well wear, very smart choice of car. The best value car for sale in Ireland at the moment imho. There is no discount for inventory cars. This is the cheapest right now:
Tesla model 3 highland €37k - fantastic car, fantastic value,by a country mile!!!
There are many reasons why someone would rather purchase a popular car brand. Resale value is one. Parts market is another. Security of your warranty, you wouldn’t want to buy another Fisker, Saab, MG, the list goes on.
Strong start of the day. That is my chances of buying back in at a decent price gone
I love boards. Someone dares to interrupt an off topic chat (albeit an interesting one) to ask a question about a Tesla in a Tesla thread and they get attitude!
The RAV4 overtook the MY as the best selling car in the world in 2024.
They don’t no. They’ve very little available at the moment in Ireland for immediate delivery.
I don’t think they got attitude. They asked a question, “would dropping sales stop you buying a car brand” which was answered, “why would you care”?
Do Polestar, BYD buyers worry as their sales are dropping here too.
Dropping car sales wouldn’t bother me if I was in the market. Look at BYD, Polestar, BMW etc, all sales dropping too.
I’d base my decision on the car itself.
if there is a chance that the cars will be orphaned because musk moves on/goes broke it’s a valid query. I see Saab mentioned above as a case on point.
