https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Someone did - but Iran did not attack Israel beforehand. They planned a response if attacked though.
Thursday 12th June
A senior Iranian official said on Thursday morning that a "friendly" country in the region has alerted Tehran about a potential Israeli attack. According to The New York Times, senior Iranian military and government figures have already met to plan a response that could involve launching hundreds of ballistic missiles at Israel.
I heard that a nuke has to be detonated to explode. You could directly bomb a store of nuclear missiles, set them on fire and they would not explode but unfortunately like you say, the radioactive material can be released and do harm to humans.
And that's the thing. This war is kicking off because Netanyahu says that Iran are close to building a nuclear weapon. The same liar that's been saying the same lie since the 90's.
At the same time Israel can't even be honest about their own nuclear arsenal. They won't even sign up to the NPT. They won't allow inspectors in.
And, somehow, Israel are the ones we're supposed to believe?
What a joke.
Another conflict built on lies.
Have any of our world leaders yet come out to demand that the US / and or Israel do not attempt to blow up a mountain with potential nukes in it?
The UN and IAEA etc can say that it's illegal, which is correct… but laws don't matter anymore apparently. Where is the united voice of the world saying that we don't want a potential catastrophe to unfold.
Nations have been sanctioned for far less than this. Even the mere threat of it
I think most leaders are secretly happy about this action from Israel tbh.
Seemingly when the US has your back you don't have to obey any rules. Just think Iraq and the WMD's.
They won't be when the 90,000,000 potential refugees start arriving
Sorry to be blunt
"Never Again" only ever meant never again to my lot.
If we can do it to someone else though…sure that's grand.
I mean...if you're going to blow up a bunker full of nuclear weapons, no better place for it to be than under a massive mountain.
The spots they're stored would cave in, covering all the material in rock.
Atomic bombs need to be activated to explode. If you just cave the room they're stored in under a load of rock you're just covering up the material in the bombs. The mountain isn't going to explode as nothing would be armed.
And you're sure there would be no leakage of radioactive materials - how?
It's weapons of mass destruction time again. Fool me once, etc, etc.
Iran was never going to use nukes, no matter the tough guy rhetoric, they are utter cowards when it comes to facing the consequences of their actions. They have spent decades creating third parties to do their dirty work due to this cowardice. They would never have had the stupidity or courage to turn rhetoric into deed.
It's all contrived for the benefit if Netanyahu and no other reason.
Because there isn't actually that much plutonium or uranium in each nuclear bomb and mountains tend to be very **** big.
Unless Iran actually has an arsenal of 1000 nuclear bombs under the mountain I think they'll be grand.
What are we talking about, 5 max?
5kg plutonium per bomb? So 25kg of plutonium stored under a mountain?
As a comparison, sellafield has 140 tonnes of purified plutonium stored.
I'm convinced …… not. I fear another Chernoble.
Stop pretending to know what happens at the end of this.
If you kick a tire on my car it may or may not hurt you. We are told that Iran is days/weeks away from launch capability. If that is true, then they can skip the next step. If it's an open threat that their work so far is doomed, then they don't need a warhead or any delivery mechanism.
All they need is a reason to detonate whatever they are claimed to possess already.
That's entirely different and now you're changing the goalposts.
I'm not condoning anyone bombing anything in Iran, I was just trying to allay your fears of OMFG EXPLODING MOUNTAIN NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST when that's not how the US bombing unarmed nuclear weapons under a mountain would work.
If Iran do launch a nuclear weapon at Israel in response to such an action that would indeed be catastrophic.
Even before Oct 7th, Iran had already attacked Israel via Hezbollah.
My point was that they will not need to launch anything. They are not going to allow (if it exists at all) their 'ready to go' nukes to be destroyed in such a massive attack that they know is coming.
They can just detonate them in situ. And a bombardment will be blamed. And it's the world that pays for that if it happens
Netanarsehole had spent the year prior sending squads into Palestinian areas which always left a trail of collateral bodies that are Israel's forte. At the time I thought he was deliberately trying to provoke a response to extend his term in power.
I dont think the entire population of Iran is to leave the country to be fair.
Plenty of people believed Hitler when he said that Poland was attacking Germany.
If you had a way out, would you stay?
The Iranians don't yet have the ability to launch a missile that could carry a nuclear warhead.
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/18/nx-s1-5438106/if-a-u-s-bunker-buster-hits-a-nuclear-site-what-might-get-released-into-the-air
Fordow seems to process uranium isotopes, which means mostly working with the uranium when it's in the form of the gas uranium hexalfluoride (UH).
Emily Caffrey of the University of Alabama described UH as a big gas molecule that is so heavy it's not likely to travel "super far" and that, therefore, any contamination from an attack would be fairly localised to the site.
Yahya Sinwar, after he was released in exchange for Gilad Shalit, spent years planning Oct 7th.
90 Million dont have a way out. It is silly to even think that.
The IRGC are not afraid of dying for their cause.
I said potential refugees. You know this.
Again, if you could leave; would you?
Some of the people hungry for destruction are the same ones that will be most vocal against accepting any refugees. Funny that, isn't it? Be it 90 million or just 90.
US President Donald Trump has asked his military advisers if 30,000-pound bombs could destroy Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, Axios reports.
The bunker-buster bombs, known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrators, are in the US arsenal, but Israel does not have the weapons or the bombers needed to deploy the bombs.
Officials from the Pentagon told Trump they believe the bombs could work against Fordo, although it’s not yet clear if Trump is so sure, Axios reports.
The bombs have never been used in actual combat, only in tests.
The USS Vincennes mistook the Iranian airliner for an Iranian F 14 Tomcat.
The payback against Gaddafi was a by-product of an intervention that was carried out to prevent Gaddafi's henchmen from reaching Benghazi, which would've become the Srebrenica of North Africa if NATO had not intervened. We know what Gaddafi did to women he got close to - Annick Cojean interviewed women who were raped by him. So Gaddafi's henchmen, if they had reached Benghazi, would've put Mladic's men in the shade.
There is ZERO proof that Iran is seeking to build a nuclear weapon. That is a fact.
They say they are enriching uranium for the purposes of nuclear power, which could be a load of baloney of course. However, Iran is in the ha'penny place with regards to fuelling their grid and there are regular blackouts over there. So their opting for nuclear power makes sense for them.
On the other hand we have a serial liar saying that they are weeks away from making a weapon. Something Netanyahu has been lying about for decades…DECADES.
In addition, Iran was complying with the agreement set down in the JCPOA and had been until Trump tore up that agreement. The IAEA now says that Iran is "in breach" of her commitments, while not detailing exactly what those breaches were and the only reason why they were able to determine that was because Iran is still letting IAEA inspectors into their facilities (something that Israel don't do). For sure, they are enriching uranium. But that is not against either the agreements of the JCPOA or against IAEA rules or that of the NPT, which Iran is a signatory to. At the point where Israel decided to bomb them, Iran were in talks with the US about cutting a new deal with regards to her nuclear capability. Netanyahu wanted to derail that because he doesn't want any stability in the Middle East and also world opinion had firmly turned against him and Israel because of what they're doing in Gaza.
In any case, even if they are enriching uranium for weaponisation, they still have to build a usable warhead and then they'll have to build a delivery system. All of which means that they are many years off of having anything close to an actual weapon.
Meanwhile Israel lies through her teeth about their own nuclear arsenal, won't allow inspectors in to regulate it and won't sign up to the NPT themselves.
