https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
"Promote peace in the region" … LOL that's funny. 😁 Oh wait, were you serious? Have a look at the s*** stirring that the Ayatollahs' regime have been doing and tell me how them having nukes would "promote peace." Because I guarantee that "promoting peace" is not what the mullah's are interested in.
Axis of Resistance - Wikipedia
They've also been instrumental in helping Russia wage its unprovoked, genocidal war in Ukraine.
I get the parity sentiment, but the world really doesn't need more nations with nuclear weapons..be it Iran or anyone else.
Only 9 countries have the capability at the moment. If you add Iran you're increasing the number globally by 11%.
Interesting quote;
'The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) reports that the expansion of nuclear arsenals and the number of nuclear-armed states elevate the potential for escalation and accidental use, especially with the ongoing modernization programs and geopolitical tensions.'
I don't see why Iran having a bomb would be such a catastrophe. NK has had the capability for decades, without major issue. If it's ok for Israel to have them, I fail to see the moral justification that Iran ought not to be able to have their own. Might actually do something to promote peace in the region if Israel was forced to respect someone else.
and iran now at 97% internet blackout
Article on wall st journal Israel is running out of interceptor missiles the need to end this war soon iran has 1000s of missiles they need the USA to get involved America is the only country with 50ooo bombs that could destroy Iran's underground nuclear base bombs and missiles that Israel does not have access to .
Iran is ruled by religious fanatics they will not stop the war unless there's a peace agreement or they have no choice also some of Iran's missiles are still getting thru . If we go back to world war two. There's no way the Germans could win America has the industrial capacity to produce weapons to a greater extent than any other country Iran will run out of bombs and missiles long before America does
Israel's nuclear weapons are pretty much an open secret. They've had them for decades and more than likely stole the technology off of the US. There's few anywhere around the world who'd say with a straight face that they don't possess them and they come down hard, VERY hard, on those that are open about it. Look at the case of Mordechai Vanunu, an Israeli nuclear technician who was open about Israel's nuclear ambitions. He was arrested by Mossad and spent 18 years in an Israeli prison. Over half of which was in solitary. He is still subject to many restrictions, even though he was released in 2004.
Also, the policy of "strategic ambiguity" is one that was suggested to them by the US. One of the reasons being that under international law selling weapons to a nuclear state is very difficult to do and usually frowned upon.
The Israelis have neither confirmed nor denied having nuclear weapons. They have a policy of strategic ambiguity - a policy known in Hebrew as "amimut". They put a greater emphasis on superiority of their conventional forces than NATO ever have. If the Cold War had become hot, NATO would've used tactical nukes to stop the Soviets from getting beyond West Germany - if you believe the plot of the 1983 film "The Day After".
A few were used during the Gulf wars to detonate large minefields.
Yes, in 2017, what was at the time the "Mother Of All Bombs" was used against an ISIS-K complex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_MOAB
Can you dodge the question some more please?
If you were an Iranian with the ability to leave Iran, would you do so or not?
Reports on several sites say that hypersonic missiles have hit sensitive sites in Israel ie. intellegence/satellite bases and Mossad. Is this likely or just bluster. If it's true and they are 'blinded' then the US will be called in to save the day.
I think one was used in Afghanistan at some stage. But yes, not really used all that much.
There are billions of potential refugees.
There is ZERO proof that Iran is seeking to build a nuclear weapon. That is a fact.
They say they are enriching uranium for the purposes of nuclear power, which could be a load of baloney of course. However, Iran is in the ha'penny place with regards to fuelling their grid and there are regular blackouts over there. So their opting for nuclear power makes sense for them.
On the other hand we have a serial liar saying that they are weeks away from making a weapon. Something Netanyahu has been lying about for decades…DECADES.
In addition, Iran was complying with the agreement set down in the JCPOA and had been until Trump tore up that agreement. The IAEA now says that Iran is "in breach" of her commitments, while not detailing exactly what those breaches were and the only reason why they were able to determine that was because Iran is still letting IAEA inspectors into their facilities (something that Israel don't do). For sure, they are enriching uranium. But that is not against either the agreements of the JCPOA or against IAEA rules or that of the NPT, which Iran is a signatory to. At the point where Israel decided to bomb them, Iran were in talks with the US about cutting a new deal with regards to her nuclear capability. Netanyahu wanted to derail that because he doesn't want any stability in the Middle East and also world opinion had firmly turned against him and Israel because of what they're doing in Gaza.
In any case, even if they are enriching uranium for weaponisation, they still have to build a usable warhead and then they'll have to build a delivery system. All of which means that they are many years off of having anything close to an actual weapon.
Meanwhile Israel lies through her teeth about their own nuclear arsenal, won't allow inspectors in to regulate it and won't sign up to the NPT themselves.
The USS Vincennes mistook the Iranian airliner for an Iranian F 14 Tomcat.
The payback against Gaddafi was a by-product of an intervention that was carried out to prevent Gaddafi's henchmen from reaching Benghazi, which would've become the Srebrenica of North Africa if NATO had not intervened. We know what Gaddafi did to women he got close to - Annick Cojean interviewed women who were raped by him. So Gaddafi's henchmen, if they had reached Benghazi, would've put Mladic's men in the shade.
US President Donald Trump has asked his military advisers if 30,000-pound bombs could destroy Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, Axios reports.
The bunker-buster bombs, known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrators, are in the US arsenal, but Israel does not have the weapons or the bombers needed to deploy the bombs.
Officials from the Pentagon told Trump they believe the bombs could work against Fordo, although it’s not yet clear if Trump is so sure, Axios reports.
The bombs have never been used in actual combat, only in tests.
I said potential refugees. You know this.
Again, if you could leave; would you?
Some of the people hungry for destruction are the same ones that will be most vocal against accepting any refugees. Funny that, isn't it? Be it 90 million or just 90.
The IRGC are not afraid of dying for their cause.
90 Million dont have a way out. It is silly to even think that.
Yahya Sinwar, after he was released in exchange for Gilad Shalit, spent years planning Oct 7th.
The Iranians don't yet have the ability to launch a missile that could carry a nuclear warhead.
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/18/nx-s1-5438106/if-a-u-s-bunker-buster-hits-a-nuclear-site-what-might-get-released-into-the-air
Fordow seems to process uranium isotopes, which means mostly working with the uranium when it's in the form of the gas uranium hexalfluoride (UH).
Emily Caffrey of the University of Alabama described UH as a big gas molecule that is so heavy it's not likely to travel "super far" and that, therefore, any contamination from an attack would be fairly localised to the site.
If you had a way out, would you stay?
Plenty of people believed Hitler when he said that Poland was attacking Germany.
I dont think the entire population of Iran is to leave the country to be fair.
Netanarsehole had spent the year prior sending squads into Palestinian areas which always left a trail of collateral bodies that are Israel's forte. At the time I thought he was deliberately trying to provoke a response to extend his term in power.
My point was that they will not need to launch anything. They are not going to allow (if it exists at all) their 'ready to go' nukes to be destroyed in such a massive attack that they know is coming.
They can just detonate them in situ. And a bombardment will be blamed. And it's the world that pays for that if it happens
Even before Oct 7th, Iran had already attacked Israel via Hezbollah.
That's entirely different and now you're changing the goalposts.
I'm not condoning anyone bombing anything in Iran, I was just trying to allay your fears of OMFG EXPLODING MOUNTAIN NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST when that's not how the US bombing unarmed nuclear weapons under a mountain would work.
If Iran do launch a nuclear weapon at Israel in response to such an action that would indeed be catastrophic.
Stop pretending to know what happens at the end of this.
If you kick a tire on my car it may or may not hurt you. We are told that Iran is days/weeks away from launch capability. If that is true, then they can skip the next step. If it's an open threat that their work so far is doomed, then they don't need a warhead or any delivery mechanism.
All they need is a reason to detonate whatever they are claimed to possess already.
I'm convinced …… not. I fear another Chernoble.
