https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
So it's their fault they didn't foster relationships with..... Iran ? There is a mental illness on this thread.
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Oh look, another useful idiot cheering on Iran. Excuse me, but politely get to ****. Yes, I do think its sad that women and child brides are executed, whereas you dont seem to give a **** about women, unless Israelis do it
I dont want to execute one myself as you state (wtaf) and I dont want Israelis to do it either. Please retract your statement.
Iran nuclear plant hit and slight damage according to Iran, with no contamination risk.
So that means it's probably a massive contamination risk.
So there is archeological evidence that the people currently settling illegally lived there 2,000 years ago?
Should we hand Dublin over to the current Norwegians?
The regime was removed. It was a regime change. That was my only argument. Attainment of the broader policy aims of the change is another matter.
It says more than they just lived there. It says it was their land. its not just Israeli archeology, it's also Persian who refer to Israel and it's history .
How can someone be illegal in what is theirs.
The Norwegians just held parts of the country, not the whole land.
"They"? Are they some kind of special race whose rights to land extend over hundreds of generations.
Is there a direct uncontaminated DNA link between those who lived there 2,000 years ago and those settling now?
You're arguing with insane religious nutheads who think the concept of having a mother is a uniquely Jewish trait, so only Jews have the right to trace back their roots thousands of years and claim that land for themselves today, whilst not giving up their land elsewhere. Funny that how they want their land from 2,000 years ago, and all the land they have gained elsewhere since.
They can never answer any query as to why this doesn't apply to the other eight billion people in the world, because all they have are their extreme religious beliefs. They waste the world's time with embarrassing trash logic instead of just saying "I think Jewish people should have this land because that is my religious belief." It's the sheer waste of time that gets me. Like it's insulting. All this pretence and garbage to defend religious positions they didn't logically come to.
Maybe it's the internet, palm oil, climate change? But it's increasingly looking like a significant portion of people in the west are gone soft in the head if they're finding common cause with Iran and their proxies.
Israel stumped on how to proceed after Iranian missiles smashed into Tel A no protection-
It's OK to box them-
But it's not fair when they box back-
Who likes Iran- ?-
But who likes the Israeli bombers of GAZA Lebanon Syria Iran- ( who is next-
Hopefully they really box back, the zone of interest is disgusting to look at
I don't understand what you mean.
If I change religion tomorrow to Judaism, are my ancestors no longer Irish like they are today, and change to being the people that once lived in Palestine 2 thousand years ago?
Judaism is a religion right?
If it's a race - you can have Jewish Muslims surely. If a person whose ancestors lived in that land for thousands of years changed to islam, does that mean they now have no rights to the land?
Actually I like Iran, just not the theocratic gangsters currently running the place. As a continuation of Persia it's got a culture and history millenia old.
Rumours of Iranian oil refinery's getting hit.
Yeah but when it comes to voting people care more about the price of eggs than they do about war in the Middle East, so the same old governments keep getting elected
Israel stumped on how to proceed?
Their air force is obliterating Iran with impunity, you might have missed that.
Sky news
According to Iranian state TV, 20 children are among 60 people killed in an Israeli attack.
The report says the strike was on a housing complex in the capital, Tehran.
I think it's Iran that is stumped. You only have to see the difference in response compared to last October, which was much larger and that was when an embassy was attacked.
An obvious blood libel. We have been assured repeatedly that Israel does not kill children
I see Jordan intercepted Iranian missiles and Iraq complained about Israel using their terrority to attack Iran. I wonder was this complaint for a domestic audience . We know Iraq is supposedly allied with Iran but I suspect a lot of Arab countries aren't really bothered by what's happening provided it doesn't cause problems for them domestically
Israel pulling the 'we have a right to defend ourselves' card whilst attacking everyone around them
Israel has not got the wit to build those fighter jets that are bombing Iran- and killing Iranian children-
Without America- Israel would have been walked over in 1973-
It's Irans own nuclear power and Iranian missiles that are hitting Tel A no protection-
iran now threatening france, uk, usa assets in middle east if they help defend israel from attack
this will not end well for them if they go down that route
Why are France, UK and the USA even involved in the fight?
It's not the old government's fault that there is no one else-
Trump picked the old Republican Government- there was no other way-
If fuel goes up to much it could cost a government-
Good job oil in Libya Syria Iraq was took over-
Iran oil next-
Well didn't Donnie agree a deal with the Houthis over the shipping route. Perhaps the Iranians feel if they can cripple financial markets Donnie might be keen to deescalate the situation due to his Saudi and Qatari friends
they are not but iran looks like it wants to drag them all in
There's a history there.
The Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) was founded in 1908, following the discovery of a large oil field in Masjed Soleiman, Iran. It was the first company using the oil reserves of the Middle East. APOC was renamed Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) in 1935, and eventually became the British Petroleum Company (BP) in 1954, as one root of the BP Company today. For half a century, profit from the company flowed into European hands. Not only did the British government own a majority share but revenue that Iran did receive was used to re-pay debts owed to European creditors, which earlier shahs had incurred. Other cheap concessions in Iran were also obtained by Europeans, to their benefit and Iran's cost.
The company, too, reneged on agreements to train Iranian technicians and engineers. It paid Iranians considerably less than foreigners and accommodated Iranian workers in sub-standard housing. The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, which supported the reigning Shah and removed an elected Prime Minister, was sparked by the company's nationalization. After the coup, a new contract was negotiated giving Iran a 50 percent share.
Iran's subsequent alienation from the West (beginning in 1979), which owes much to how the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company profited from exploiting Iran's oil over many years, can be attributed in part to the irresponsible way that a "game" was played in other people's territory, with little thought to what the consequences might be. The degree to which the prosperity of former colonial powers was gained at the cost of others is an issue that a world community of nations committed to justice and a fairer distribution of resources needs to address.
They are if they are repelling Iranian attacks
