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Eh Russia seemed confident they could take over Ukraine in several days / weeks back in 2022
Don’t mistake stupidity and inability to say “that’s a bad idea” to a dictator for confidence
that’s a good point, yeh whatever the reason for continually ignoring missiles and drones flying and landing in nato countries, it doesn’t detract from my point that I highly doubt the Poles would go out of their way to do anything if they see missiles/drones heading for Kaliningrad
In Spring 1918 Germans launched a massive offensive
Fast forward a little bit and they were signing the Versailles Treaty while economy imploded
#confidence
Yeah in 2022 the Russians were stupidly overconfident, and in 2023 before the Ukrainian counter offensive started people here were also very confident, and look how that turned out.
We're 3 years in and nothing truly significant has changed for a long time: neither side has the ability to win, neither side can afford to lose (for very different reasons).
That the invasion was an act of criminal stupidity changes nothing about that. The Russians have learned just as the Ukrainians have learnt and it's basically now a war of technology
Just kill them
Just kill who?
Medvedev said last week Russia isn’t interested in peace, they are interested in victory. Look at the psychos on RT,they actually want to kill all Ukrainians, go on YouTube and watch the 1420 channels, the Russians believe in eliminating Ukraine.
yeah but Putin always seems the ultimate ruthless pragmatist to me, I can’t believe he’s seriously out of touch with military and economic realities…
Hegsweth confirming today America will stop all funding to Ukraine.
Russians who are demanding the withdrawal of nato from the Baltic states.
It's almost as if Russia's western neighbours joined NATO because of threats like that.
Nicely played.
Its possible he is; dictators tend to be surrounded by yes men and people terrified to tell him bad news.
A leader with a balanced cabinet of opposing/challenging views is going to make for a better war time leader.
Its not unlikely however that he has a deal done with China/Iran/North Korea who between them provide him with capital, technology, war supplies, troops etc. Neither of the leadership of any of those four countries give and flying fcuk about the lifes of ordinary citizens of any country, including their own.
It's quite the advantage in a battle with the west; they they know it.
Yea I've never really subscribed to that theory myself. I've heard it too many times before. Yes they have their struggles with their economy but they seem to be grand finding the money to pour into missiles and drones to keep constantly terrorising Ukraine with on a daily basis.
I think if they were close to some kind of economic collapse that would affect their ability to wage this war they would be very much open now to trying to negotiate a freeze in the conflict.
Unfortunately they seem hell bent on throwing everything at Ukraine for the foreseeable future, in no part helped hugely by Trump being in office, this was the best gift Putin ever could of imagined.
Russia have no choice but to seem very confident regardless of whether that confidence is justified. They must present a front that everything is going their way.
Plucking random examples from history to support your theory doesn't make it any more likely. Russia has backing from plenty of nasty, powerful countries like China and Iran that have long term interest in also weakening and dividing the West. It is not Germany in 1918. Try telling the citizens of Kyiv that some fella in the comfort of Ireland knows Russia's war machine is about to run out of juice when they're enduring this every night:
WW2 was over for Germany in December 1941, it just took another 3 and a half years to get Hitler to realise it.
Was just thinking that even if Ukraine pushed the russians back to their borders, would that really be the end of the war? It seems to me that Russia would just keep on firing missiles at Ukrainian cities indefinitely and continue to push at weakly defended border areas.
The only way that I can see it possibly de-escalating is with the death or ousting of Putin. As long as he is in charge, he will continue to push to gain control over Ukraine.
Ukraine needs more soldiers, more weapons, a population of 40 millions should be able to have million plus soldiers armed and ready to kill every Russian on their land
A proper tough response from America and Europe would have ended this war years ago.
Now with America pulling the plug altogether on Ukraine, it looks like it will drag on for years.
Krasnov has saved Russia and Putins bacon.
Ah yes, that same missile that Ukraine claimed was a Russian missile and demanded Nato intervene, until the US and the Poles correctly confirmed it to be an"out of control "s300 missile.
Would that be the end of the war? No, probably not, but at the very least it would, by default, create a sort of buffer zone between the "human safari" Russian drone operators and ordinary Ukrainians, and it'd allow Ukraine to start building a line of defenses that were focused on taking missiles and drones out of Ukrainian airspace entirely.
Also, if the Russians were to continue lobbing missiles at Ukrainian maternity hospitals and the like, that'd give Ukraine every justification for continuing to target the airfields and storage depots from where those missiles originated.
That is, of course, the ultimate irony in all of this. Up until 2022, and despite Putin's rhetoric, no-one was threatening any Russian, military or otherwise, on Russian soil, let alone sending lorry loads of high explosive to targets all across the country. Thanks to Putin's catastrophic miscalculation, there is now a real and present danger for anyone taking the Czar's rouble. And it's not even coming from a NATO member.
But none from Kaliningrad, as you claimed. Unless you're mixing Kursk with Kaliningrad.
If you look at the article that I'm assuming that you're quoting.
US to cut military aid to Ukraine, Hegseth says
The United States will reduce funding allocated for military assistance to Ukraine in its upcoming defense budget
So they're using the word "cut" in a "reduce" capacity.
Anyway it's not unreasonable to think that Trump will in future find ways to cut off Ukraine. Did any of us really think Trump would be asking congress to assign more funds to Ukraine? So we'll see.
Yes, I do remember the absolute fear in russia when they realised they may have hit a NATO country until the full investigation was done (and of course it was a russian made missile that went out of control).
The russian army isn't even a flat track bully any longer.
"Russian made missile", clutching at straws with this one. It was a Ukrainian operated missile, Zelensky trying to drag Nato in without an investigation, looked pretty foolish when the US put a stop to that,.
Remember Zelensky was ordered to pull his horns in behind closed doors by the cowardly USA and EU after calling Russia out?
Ah, yes…
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-destroys-25-38-drones-russian-attack-air-force-says-2024-07-25/
Once again what is your realistic solution? What you listed earlier is pure fantasy because the Russians don’t don’t want to stop
You might want to look at map where Kaliningrad is
Where Poland is
And where Kursk is
