Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Did you read the article?

This reads like you want these both to happen. Neither will, Canada isn’t worried about America and all the crap Trumps spouts about the 51st state. Sure as you’ve said, it’s all a distraction…or were you wrong on that as well?

If Musk or Trump made such a claim, we'd definitely have posters arguing that it is in fact true.

Weird, considering he says the same thing about both, how do you know he is serious about one but not the other? Do you text him?

I live in Canada, you are fully correct that they are taking it seriously, and not just in the form of retaliatory tariffs.

He won?

At his own course?

What are the odds???

It's a bit telling that you've moved away from posts like above. Stock market crashing for the last 3 weeks, Trumpcession incoming, civil rights being rolled back on and people with green cards being targeted because of peaceful protest. Ethnic cleansing called for etc. The Andrew Tate intervention. Plus the fact that he's repeatedly talking about using economic warfare to take control of Canada. I think you're in a minority if you think the direction of the administration isn't a totalitarian move. As a person living in third world Ireland, I wouldn't exactly be aspiring to match the US ATM. I think the lack of commentary from any Trump supporters says a lot about the state of things.

And if he then decided he needed a nice new base off the west of Europe to protect the Atlantic and sent troops to "annex" Ireland, you would be fine with that too?

Yes. Important things like the price of eggs shows Trump hears the concerns of ordinary voters.

Oh wait...

https://www.thejournal.ie/egg-prices-6649778-Mar2025/

Militarily? No

But how long would the US economy last if every country stopped buying US products/produce?

How long would their military last outside of the US if every country refused to allow their bases and refused to let any of their ships/subs dock for fuel?

Imagine if the EU and China stopped using the $ for trade.

The US could quite easily be brought to its knees through these actions.

If courts make a finding against Trump's administration, who is in charge of actually enforcing it? Is it the US Department of Justice? Because that is currently headed up by a Trump loyalist - Pam Bondi. Is it federal marshals? I understand Trump sacked quite a number of them shortly after taking office. The FBI? Their chief wrote a children's book about the 'plot' against Trump.

The great thing about acting unlawfully is that you don't have to wait for approval from institutions of law. You just go ahead and do your business and deal with the consequences later on. The crucial difference with the Trump administration is that not only can they move faster than the law, when needed, but that they have a huge hand in how the law is administered and will only seek to consolidate their power in this area meaning that the law never actually catches up with them. That's presuming the laws aren't just completely rewritten to validate everything they do, anyway.

As for the Democrats as a party, they're not fit for purpose as opposition to what's going on. There are a few noble actors out in the left wing of the party like Bernie Sanders and AOC who are doing their bit to raise the alarm, but the actual party establishment who have their hands on the party's overall direction of travel just appear completely spineless right now, apparently set on a kind of beige business-as-usual attitude in the face of what amounts to an authoritarian takeover of the United States in slow motion, and this isn't hyperbole. I'm not sure if there's a batch of EOs being signed by Trump where you couldn't pick out one that is deeply troubling and directly intended to tighten his grip on the machinery of power in an unprecedented way, and I don't see any particular sign of this abating. I'm just wondering what kind of fireworks are going to go off at the point where Trump and his team feel like they have all their ducks in a row and their power cannot be challenged any longer?