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As Brian Clough said, If a player isn't interfering with play he shouldn't be on the pitch.
If the scenario is as you outlined the its automatically a free as someone is always interfering with play
Yup. That's a messy one. Still waiting on clarification if those 5 nuances mentioned are "or" or "and", with the wording used to describe it varying across different sources & it being ambiguous in the official proposed wording (crossing my fingers it doesn't make the rule-book in that state). I'm guessing it'll have to be "and" so breach any single one (e.g. go more than 4m or interfere with play even inside the 4m) and it'd result in the normal punishment. (For context for anyone unfamiliar: "2. A breach of this Rule does not occur where the player(s) who would otherwise cause the breach: (a) have done so unintentionally, (b) are within 4m of the half way line, (c) are not interfering with play, (d) are not interfering with an opponent, and (e) are not gaining an advantage") If that is the case… yup. We're very quickly going to need firm guidelines on what constitutes interfering with play, interfering with an opponent & gaining an advantage. They're completely open-ended, subjective, and nothing like them in the rule-book previously to build from. With all sorts of headaches around the previous advantage rule where they've actively moved to remove that same level of subjectivity. Questions on right hand knowing what the left is up to. (Wouldn't be quite so worried on the question of 'who breached', that'll be a question of timing on which of the two players did it second. We'd the exact same question being asked under the old wording of the rule, so 50/50 there) I'm personally ok with having the same punishment for breaches of the defending 4 or offensive 3 (both 20m frees, rather than 13m which only applies in rare dissent breaches), or having a lesser penalty for breaches where contesting the ball, but wouldn't at all be a fan of turning something that should be black & white so everyone can be on the same page into one of the most debatable and subjective calls that'll need to be made on a pitch. Just opens the door for so many poor decisions or hugely negative reactions from players/management/fans. Sounds fine in theory having more pragmatism but in practice I'd fear it'll be a large misstep alright. (I'd be a fan of the other new tweaks. Except them forgetting to fix the incorrectly worded 1.11(a) for backpasses in the large square and the loop-hole where you can't ever tackle a S&G [& now a kick-out mark] within 4m, regardless of time or number of actions in possession.)
They may be about to turn a great thing into an awful thing. Leaving anything open to interpretation just makes it so likely to create controversy. The 3 back rule was simple enough all that really needed to change was the rule about where the team were a man down from red/black card. Making it harder for Refs to officiate by giving them more complex decisions to make doesn’t help at all.
https://mayogaa.com/2025/03/11/abbvie-senior-league-division-1-3-fixtures-2025/
I agree. Messy and convoluted. Leaves referees open to huge criticism too. Imagine one of these subjective calls playing a big role in some semifinal or final scenario.
Have people seen Tim O'Leary's latest letter to Jarlath Burns about financial corruption in the Mayo County Board ?
He alleges theft, tax evasion and false accounting.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are irregularities (and that's not just in Mayo but other counties also, esp in previous years when a lot of gates were cash-only) but yer man O'Leary is a gobsh*te of the highest order so it's difficulte to take him seriously.
A lot of claims in there any of us not serving on the board wouldn't have a clue on the veracity of, but when the letter goes on to outline situations we can judge from the outside… "Mr Touhy’s statement could be viewed as an open admission that the current Board and its advisors are unable to manage the most basic business activity which amounts to the preparation and approval of expenses. Mr Touhy is clearly trying to deflect the story away from Mayo GAA and placing the issue back at the door of GAA HQ and the wider GAA Community." … it becomes clear there's at least quite a bit of (potentially malicious, potentially blissful) ignorance involved. We know that every county investigated on these matters had comparable issues, we know that from those initial findings investigations were planned nationally and following Feargal McCormack's announcement at Congress we know that the GAA & Revenue agreed a self-review of all 26 counties were agreed with Revenue to cover declarations for everyone from '21 to '24. https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41579770.html Trying to suggest this one is somehow Mayo specific or down to incompetence from the Mayo County Board is incredibly inaccurate. It's demonstrably a national issue. When that one area that can be judged as an outsider is so far off the mark… it certainly raises questions on the accuracy or veracity of anything else contained. Especially when coming from a source that has become well known for their petulant and petty attacks on those same individuals named. That said, things like the concerns raised by Liam Moffatt on Sponsorship or concerns previously raised by Liam Horan & the other members of the Strategic Action Plan Committee ( https://www.mayogaablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/MayoGAAStrategic-1-27.pdf - many of which still remain unaddressed to this day) are very genuine issues and certainly worthy of a lot more questions and attention. They're just lost in the noise of a lot of petty nonsense in that letter, which makes it very difficult to separate any genuine issues from personal vendettas.
This is a an outstanding piece of work by Tim O’Leary which appears to be fully backed up by a firm of Forensic Accountants. I was only recently reading the Sunday Independent and the Sunday Times which has covered elements of what is in the letter. There is absolutely no way these papers would cover these matters if there wasn’t solid evidence to support what is in the letter. By all accounts Tim O’Leary is a very intelligent individual with an honours degree in Maths so numbers come easy to him. From other information which is circulating online I see that he is represented by Maltin https://www.maltinpr.com/ who are one of the leading PR companies in London. It is also clear that Tim isn’t operating alone as in a press release before Christmas he stated that he was representing a group of Mayo Supporters who are based all over the world. Maybe on this occasion Mayo GAA have crossed the wrong individual or maybe individuals. Time for Jarlath Burns to step up and get control of this matter.
Welcome to the discussion Tim.
Way,Way too much time on your hands Tim.
Get help.
**** off Tim. You were a prick when you thought you could buy Mayo GAA like some trophy soccer club.
You're an even bigger prick now that you're trying to tear it down out of spite.
If you actually stood by facts alone, you'd probably put together a good case, but you can't help but let your vindictive side win out.
Put your money into Leyton Orient or whoever your team is, and just drop the bullshit.
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Ruane is having some league so far.
Yeah, he looks back to where he was before the '21 final.
Nice finish to the half
I must say, some very nice stuff from Mayo in this game, hopefully they can keep it up now
Decent first half. A bit more ruthlessness and we'd be further ahead. The new rules have definitely stretched defences and created extra space for forwards.
Having a mighty game today.
we are going to end up in a league final against Galway at this rate
Time to book that hotel Km
Tis booked :D
Might be getting relegated yet!
They’d put years on you!
Joyce will be sweating after saying Galway were targeting the league. The last team he wants to meet in a league final is Mayo.
Another win , will forgive the last 10/15 mins has a lot of changes made at that stage. Were in a good place again with established players regaining form and some new lads bedding in nicely.
It would take some turn of events for us to make the final.
A Donegal win now against Tyrone and I'd be delighted. Safety secured and move onto Championship preparation.
Good away win but Derry had some bad wides in that 2nd half. D1 status as good as retained which wasn't looking too likely after Galway hammered us.
All that needs to happen is for donegal to lose today - likely
Us to beat donegal - very likely
And one of Galway or Dublin to lose their last game - Galway gone to Kerry; Dublin away to Tyrone who could be fighting for their lives if they beat donegal !
Maybe I'm just more pessimistic by nature.
(Assuming Tyrone beat Donegal)
If we lose to Donegal and Armagh and Tyrone both win, we would likely get relegated on points difference if Kerry beat Galway.
Jim mightn't want a league final but I wouldn't put us as very likely to beat anyone.
Looks like we might need a win or draw from last game.
If Armagh and Tyrone win their last game then we will need a result from what I can make out.
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