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Surely all the Republicans in power in US Senate don't agree with siding with Russia, and working against allies .
That reminds me of Germany blocking UK overflights with military aid to Ukraine before Russia Invaded. It's surreal thinking about that and how much the German attitude has changed. But yeah, pulling US troops from NATO bases would limit US reach.
They don’t care and have no inclination of the history with Russia They are useful idiots like our own Claire Daly and Mick Wallace.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/07/donald-trump-considers-pulling-troops-out-of-germany/
It is my impression that people outside the US are taking it all a lot more dramatically than people inside the US.
American troops may not be happy at how we are treating the people we have trained beside (or fought beside, for us older folks) right now. However, that doesn't mean we are spending any time thinking about the highly unlikely chance that we'll seizing part of Ontario or whatever. It's somewhere along the same level of defending against an alien invasion as far as we're concerned: There's probably a plan for it, but done for the sake of doing one.
Yes, but if Trump ordered you to the border with Canada in the morning, would you go? And would it potentially create a division within the military.
Can't be all like that, must be 99% of them that are saying silent, but thinking wtf
As I said.
Usedul idiots.
This deal is done, probably weeks ago ,it's all about saving face now ,Ukraine will withdraw from Russia, because their surrounded, their not, but putin looks great to get the country back ,All the territory in the east that is occupied, will probably be in a negotiated region for ever ,Russia is broke, all this talk of them attacking Europe is crazy .
Not all, lots of sensible Republicans
Sure. We just sent a good few thousand troops to the border with Mexico, nobody's complaining about it.
Well, the soldiers probably are. It's likely playing hell with their training schedule, and I'm sure the families aren't thrilled, but it's lawful.
Bit of a difference between stopping people getting in and invading canada
US has become pro-Russian. But they want Europe to go harder on China…
Time for G6.
We live in uncertain times. What is clear is that the US and Russian regimes are lead by bullies. Whether it’s the schoolyard or negotiating international affairs… you don’t appease bullies.
Agent Trump return to base. Will the north Koreans start to invade Ukraine proper now?
Talk of cosying up to China now but that regime is far worse than the states and there won't be an election there in 4 years either to change their tune.
I meant in the context with the intention to cross it. But I think you knew that.
The EU is strong enough to stand alone. We shouldn't be cosying up to the US China or Russia, there's a whole other world out there to trade with.
Countries that would perhaps prefer the trade without the political interference that comes hand in hand from dealing with the others.
Apparently checks and balances would stop dictator Trump
Or so we were told by Americans on forum
How quaint all of that nonsense must sound now
Do you think it’s a wise thing to do for a member of the US army to expand freely online on his potential Trump-disobedience (under his own name at that ) ?
Bolton on sanctions & etc…
Land of the free… Free speech…
More notions that now sound hollow
Doesn't look that way to me. All signs are Putin intends to keep pushing ahead…
apologies yet another double post
Looks that way alright. In the last week where the USA has started blackmailing Ukraine to surrender to putin the moskovyte terrorists have launched 1200 guided aerial bombs, nearly 870 attack drones and 80 missiles at Ukraine while Trump insists it is the Ukrainians who are the ones who are difficult to deal with. How could putin settle this war without gaining more land?
75% of worlds population now live under authoritarian regimes of varying degrees - I include the US in that. We are a dying breed and I expect the dominos in Europe to start falling over the next decade. Hungary already has and Poland was close.
Meh, there were as many if not more authoritarian regimes during the Cold War. As for America; in the 60's on the one hand it was all shiny and moon shots, on the other you had the Cuban missile crisis, race riots, the Vietnam war, the threat of The Bomb and a load of political assassinations including their actual president(and later his brother). If Twitter had been around it would have melted down. Yet here we are…
I'd say we're in a slightly more batty period than the McCarthyism era for the US domestically. It just feels this time round that the consequences globally will be more extreme.
We should always back Europe over America, we should always back India over China.
Europe is indeed strong enough if it invests in it's strengths. They should never have been reliant on the US in the first place. And when the war started massive investments should have taken place.
Poland wasn't close. By that logic Ireland is close too.
I would agree if circumstances in the EU were different (more unified), however, the EU is internally divided on security, defense, and foreign policy. Our own government is taking steps to increase defence spending to €3b a year from €1.35b, but that is still only 0.6% of GDP (0.9% of GNI), and being pilloried about building houses instead, failing to understand its not an 'either-or' choice.
We are seeing the emergence of a new geopolitical axis defined not by traditional alliances but by the rise of cult-personality-driven authoritarian regimes.
What we have seen in the past 6 weeks is just the start; it will become bolder, louder, and more aggressive, and the proof is in history repeating itself with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, which have so many parallels
The EU (and Canada, potentially) are surrounded by fascist regimes now (call them what they are), and I would rather make overtures to China now before the USA-Russia axis do (and I believe despite the tariffs and so on that that is inevitable) . It is in the EU’s long-term strategic interest to engage with China preemptively, not as an ally in values, but as a counterbalance to this rising global nationalist axis.
Something else I think we will see in the near future is the emergence of a two-tier Europe, where the current EU will remain as is, but member states will be given a choice to become part of a federalised Europe as they wish in their own time, which I believe is necessary.
Bolton makes the excellent point that Trump giving Putin whatever he wants makes the prospect of a ceasefire in Ukraine this year practically non-existent.