Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

He's buying EV trucks while removing the ability to charge them from federal facilities.

They'll have to pay to charge them at Tesla stations. It's just another means to give musk even more money.

Apologies if this has already been covered. Vance accused Zelensky of "attacking" the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of Ukraine. Did Zelensky attack Trump or Vance at any point prior to this accusation?

From what I have seen and heard, Zelensky only questioned the trust that Trump and Vance have placed in Putin abiding by any "diplomatic" agreement.

I suspect that Zelensky did not attack the administration but I am just wondering if I missed something.

Buying EV is one thing. Buying them off your mate is another.

He's not stopping it though is he. It's not like he's shy of stopping things.

Vance has been replaced by Vice President Musk.

So in order to make himself relevant and actually part of an administration he needs to screen like a toddler.

This reminds me of a Holocaust denier or 911 conspiracy theorist saying the truth will out at any moment. Trump is president of the US, if the invasion was actually provoked, he could produce the evidence and humiliate Zelensky and the Biden administration. So I think we're more inching towards seeing what kind of atrocious behavior Trump fans will manage to justify. We've so far covered ethnic cleansing, Hitler salutes and siding with Russian imperialism...

The more I think about it Trump is a National Leader version of Sporano’s character Tony Soprano

He is insecure, having a feeling of been unloved in his youth. So he wants “respect”. There are two types of people in his mind “winners” and “losers”. But wars are ultimately “bad for business”.

Also add DOGE threatening email demanding employees justify their positions. Imagine having to make a business case for a library.

I doubt Musk and the Doge guys can evaluate all the things they are swinging an axe through either. Nor do they care. They only evaluation they need to make about it is political/ideological.

I expect the US govt. (DoD/military and space) money tap will be wide open to tune of trillions when it comes to Tesla and SpaceX. Musk doesn't need to give a monkies about the stock market or the "little people" buying his products any more IMO.

If you say so…

SpaceX is suspicious for the same reason, who on the outside knows how genuine it is as a project (and whether it deserves any subsidies at all).

But my point is that a bubble of hype surrounds all funded research, it's how they got funding in the first place.

Had Zelensky sat cap in hand and head bowed and said not a word Trump would still have found him disrespectful . Trump was itchin for a row and already rehearsed an attack with his "monkey puppet " Vance and they were ready to go .

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It's like a "very special episode" of cliched Tv where the trope of the American TV Dad, who is supposed to represent conscience, morality and responsibility while protecting those unable to protect themselves, blames his son for getting himself beaten up and even expresses admiration for how tough his bully is.