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The one good thing about Trump is, you can be in a very heated argument with him one minute, and 5 minutes later he will call you and act like there was no argument.
Apparently the "reporter" who asked this suit Q is boyfriend of none other than marjorie taylor greene.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-zelensky-mtg-boyfriend-brian-glenn-b2706903.html
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Ukraine wasn't at the vote (it was absent)
Thanks ,yes you are right. They choose not to vote. Don't think they would be pleased if others sat on the fence if the vote was about Ukrainian territory. Either you are pro occupation or against. Or for political reasons ,have no opinion.
It's a country being invaded perhaps they couldn't be at the vote, we don't know
Ukraine has a strong record of voting for Palestine in a majority of votes.
Something which just occurred to me. Has Fox given any Russian government persons any air time in the past few years?
Rather apt.
JJust Because of elevated imports ahead of the tariffs, exports add to GDP, imports reduce it - this will wash out
They sold out to appease Biden. They will bow to Trump too of that's what it takes.
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Didn’t see any bowing today.
Can you edit this lie?
A temporary import surge may affect quarterly GDP (by the way its incredibly disrputive for supply chains; staffing up, night-shifts, unplanned overtime, that goes all the way to initial suppliers of raw materials to manufacturuers and retailers on the end of it, plus tying up cash in excess inventory, etc.), but the broader issue is structural.
Trump's trade wars have already disrupted supply chains even though he has (with exception oif China) bluffed so far, look at the boycotts people are posting about in Canada and holidays to the USA being cancelled. When it finally happens it will have increased costs for businesses, and will lead to retaliatory tariffs that will hurt U.S. exports. The manufacturing sector suffered, and long-term investment uncertainty slowed growth. These effects don’t just ‘wash out’—they compound over time.
Beyond this, the USA is near full employment now; there arent armies of people just waiting to enter new economic sectors that they dont right now because they cant compete.
Further, slapping a blanket 25% tariff on something right away is counter-productive.
Issue is the Americans seem to think the exporting company has to pay the tariff to the US government, they dont seem to realise its the importer who pays it and then passes it on to the consumer.
the MAGA cult don’t need to know the facts or the finer details on how tariffs work, all they need to hear is that their man is slapping a 25% tariff on those pesky foreigners who make their lives so terrible…..
None of it makes sense, but sense is a trait that idiots are devoid of.
MAGA doesn’t deal with the realities, only the soundbites they can post on social media ‘sticking it to the foreigners’
Don’t they give Trump, Vance etc airtime all the time?
They are “Russian government people” these days
you seen what happened to US stocks and crypto and eggs and us consumer sentiment last few weeks?
There is a strange divide across social media and amongst US politicians as well Lindsay Graham toeing the Trump line was extremely weak and spineless. There is simply no objective basis to say that Zelensky was in the wrong. Hes entitle to stand up to himself when the others try to bully him, and the salty reaction is not because Zelensky was wrong, but because Trump and Vance failed to bully him.
Thus, even though most of Europe would naturally support Ukraine anyway, the real divide is between people who see things how they really are and how in the world vs those who are starting to realise they are on the wrong side.
The first rule of mediation is that you are neutral and dont take a side. Trump acknowledged that by saying he didnt criticise Putin because then the negotiation wouldnt work. Yet he constantly, thoughtlessly and unashamedly criticises Zelensky and claims him standing up for himself means that he doesnt want peace. Trump clearly therefore understands the rules of being an impartial mediator, and has in one single speech shown the world where his interests truly lie.
That the MAGA types cant see that is deeppy worrying. I spent last night wondering how Americans decided to let a monkey drive the bus, so to speak.
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@johnnyskeleton "The first rule of mediation is that you are neutral and don't take a side. Trump acknowledged that by saying he didnt criticise Putin because then the negotiation wouldnt work. Yet he constantly, thoughtlessly and unashamedly criticises Zelensky and claims him standing up for himself means that he doesnt want peace. Trump clearly therefore understands the rules of being an impartial mediator, and has in one single speech shown the world where his interests truly lie."
Now the world knows how Trump behaves behind closed doors because he just had a closed-door session with no doors. He is a divisive bully and a Putin poodle.
America, the great betrayer.
Or since they are big into the big business and tax cuts, maybe Judas Inc. would be more appropriate.
Brian Glenn - a notorious moron - asking about Zelensky's dress attire highlights the absurdity of that meeting, Trump's administration and their ties with Russia.
That question removes any doubt that this wasn't a school yard ambush.
This was like showing the prime minister of Poland in 1939 the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty, and him telling Hitler and Stalin it looks like a crap deal for Poland.
Most appalled person would be Putin. He had Ukraine teetering on the edge of capitulation but the Europeans will probably step in to the breach now and provide coordinated support to repel the Russians.
Taiwan have nobody but the Americans to moderate China's behaviour so China will probably move during Trump's term in Office.
Really highlights how weak and insubstantial the concept of a country and nationhood is. Ukraine is a huge resource rich country of 50/60 million people and it gets treated like this. Countries are really only allowed exist at the behest and whims of the Powerful ones. We are lucky we are part of a club of similar sized countries who pool sovereignty. But by Jaysus we are at absolutely nothing without that. If we didn’t have the EU our only option in the hard world of geopolitics and realpolitik would be a province of Britain once again.
Europeans will probably step in to the breach now and provide coordinated support to repel the Russians.
I'm not convinced Europe has either the capacity or the will for this
When the Russians sent their crack donkey devisions it was obviously game over for Europe.
How oh how can we resist their cuteness.
Seriously though if I was a ukranian drone operator I would do everything to avoid hurting the donkeys.
You obviously never had a kick or a bite from a donkey!
When I saw Trump criticizing Zelenskyy's dress, when he arrived, I thought it was AI or the voice was dubbed. But it wasn't dubbed. He really did debase himself and the American presidency by dispensing with politeness and acting like an obnoxious pig. Booooooyyyyyy do the Russians have deep sh1t on Trump.
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