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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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    #10742
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184879#Comment_123184879

    Trump has made a decision that they don't want the states involved anymore and they are pursuing an isolation policy. That's their prerogative, it's about time Europe stood up for itself and stop relying on the states as their protector. It was always going to change under trump or someone else and Europe has been caught with it's pants down. At the end of the day this war is off no benefit whatsoever to the states.



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    #10743
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭kyote00


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183278#Comment_123183278

    the mighty US military’s record since ww2 has been 0-4. Retreats from Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq.



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    #10744
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,681 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184906#Comment_123184906

    FWIW as someone that has some insight into how the Social Security admin does its databases, it's no surprise there's still COBOL code in production; SSA is pathetically behind the times and does a surprising amount of record keeping, on paper. Yes, by hand. Badly in need of a serious 'root and stem' upgrade of their infrastructure.

    Unlikely to happen, though, as the SSA really likes the inefficiency. Why have 1 employee doing everything on, say, a 1990's-era computer system that eliminates 10 workers, versus 10 workers that do things by hand as it is today.

    Note: stupid Eloon and CFTrump clumsy attempts to do something is wrong, but at least the SSA badly needs modernization.



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    #10745
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184911#Comment_123184911

    That's not actually what he's decided. He's decided to negotiate on behalf of Ukraine and is excluding the key stakeholders of Ukraine and the EU from the negotiations. That's him hijacking the situation for his own ends. It's most definitely not isolationism. In the exact same way as calling for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is not isolationism.



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    #10746
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,194 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184911#Comment_123184911

    it's about time Europe stood up for itself and stop relying on the states as their protector.

    I'm far from convined that Europe would have the capacity to do this in a time frame sufficdient to stop Ukraine being overrun…



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    #10747
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,708 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184711#Comment_123184711

    So why give Putin everything he wants as an opening gambit?



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    #10748
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184959#Comment_123184959

    He hasn't.
    Nevertheless, there is speculation that Trump gave Zelensky his conditions for support : the rare earths.
    Trump duly dispatched Scott Bessent to ink the deal. Zelensky refused to sign.
    Hence Trump wants nothing more to do with him.



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    #10749
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184945#Comment_123184945

    Let's call it what it is...

    Extortion. A shake down.

    This is not about what is best for the US. it's about what's best for Trump.

    He's not looking to balance the books of the economy. Look to the tax cut in the first administration. That didn't benefit the average person. It benefited him and his donors.

    Incredible naivety by the electorate. Fool me once etc etc

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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    #10750
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184711#Comment_123184711

    Trump has never cottoned on to or liked the idea of US military getting involved in foreign wars. He [no disrespect to the US war dead] sees no value in dying to defend one's country from abroad, whatever about while within US borders. His interest in Ukraine has to be looked at from that angle, its merely a commercial deal, in his way of megaphone bargaining now moved into international politics. War in the area where you want commercial enterprise working costs business time and money.

    As for NATO, Trump has no intent on honouring any obligations the US has as a member and doesn't want to be a party to any enlargement of it while president as it could disrupt his schemes. His expression of interests in Greenland [NATO territory] and Canada are an indicator of how he is handling international interests with a megaphone, very unsettling and hard to figure out if he's genuine or an idiot.

    About the only thing good in Trumps way of trading with others is that it means that Putin cannot have 100% faith in anything Trump says as he might have a brilliant new scheme overnight which Putin never saw coming. I would not be surprised if Trump did a deal with some-one other than Putin in Moscow to bring more than a ceasefire in Ukraine which would include Putin disappearing from the stage for good.



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    #10751
    itsacoolday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184991#Comment_123184991

    A large section of the electorate in the last US election thought they were even worse off under the Democrats. Go figure.



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    #10752
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,517 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185034#Comment_123185034

    Doesn't make it true though.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #10753
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184906#Comment_123184906

    I can see Daddy speaking to Jnr: see what DOGE is now trying to get for me from IRS. I hope your returns are OK.



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    #10754
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,093 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Trust is incredibly important for successful negotiation - I don’t trust America one iota right now - my advice to Europe and Ukraine is - go in with your eyes wide open and count your fingers on the way out



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    #10755
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,708 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184980#Comment_123184980

    He hasn't.

    What has he not given?



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    #10756
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,681 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185090#Comment_123185090

    And, how do any of us know what was actually offered? Even the thing the Telegraph got ahold of, could be deflection/out of date/wrong/wankery.



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    #10757
    itsacoolday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185056#Comment_123185056

    The hundreds of millions of Americans who actually live there are perhaps best placed to think if they are were and are better off under the Republicans or under the Democrats, and in the election in the USA only a few months ago Trump had a clear majority. Not saying who is right or wrong. You can fool some of the people most of the time and most of the people some of the time. You or I may not agree with it, but the people there voted for him. Us telling Americans what is best for them would be a bit like Americans telling us what party or politicians here are best for us. You have to give some weight to what people on the ground think.



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    #10758
    itsacoolday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185068#Comment_123185068

    I would never trust any politician. However, if I had to trust one, I would trust Trump. He shoots from the hip, speaks his mind without thinking about it too much first. You know what he says is not all rehearsed or read from a script on a screen in front of him. You know what his values are, and where you stand with him. Is he perfect? No. But who is?



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    #10759
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185394#Comment_123185394

    Delusional or disingenuous.

    I'm going with the first.

    Could be wrong though....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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    #10760
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,708 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185394#Comment_123185394

    if I had to trust one, I would trust Trump

    clucking bell



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    #10761
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,517 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185359#Comment_123185359

    None of this refutes my point.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #10762
    ollkiller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185394#Comment_123185394

    Would you trust Trump to pay you if you were a contractor owed money by him?



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    #10763
    itsacoolday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185495#Comment_123185495

    I would never trust anyone unless I really had to, least of all a politician. With contractors, I have dealt with enough contractors in my time to know things are not always what they seem and sometimes either or both sides can have a valid reason for nor adhering to the terms of a contract.

    The Trump business in Co. Clare probably spends how much , 8 or 10 million euro locally every year? Have not a clue, but that would not be unusual for a large hotel. Are you telling me some contactors have not got paid in Co. Clare? Genuinely interested to know.



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    #10764
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,011 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185394#Comment_123185394

    Welcome to ignore.

    🙄



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    #10765
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,451 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185394#Comment_123185394

    He is convicted a fraud. Cheated on his wife. Lied 30k+ times the last time.

    Within the 1st few months he has broken multiple promises.

    It's a pathetic argument to say they are all the same. It's lazy and just a way to make yourself feel better having found yourself siding with such a person as Trump.

    Trump is busy bullying his allies but he is scared stiff of upsetting Putin. Netanyahu played him like a fiddle.



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    #10766
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185394#Comment_123185394

    However, if I had to trust one, I would trust Trump

    The most idiotic statement on here from anyone other than someone who was delivery trolling since we had people saying Johnson would deliver a successful Brexit.

    Now, You're entitled to your opinion as much as anyone. Absolutely. Don't think I'm suggesting otherwise, but if you genuinely believe this, and it seems you do, I'm going to discard everything you say.

    Of all the politicians who have influence over our world to suggest that Trump is the most trustworthy has absolutely zero basis in real world evidence.

    6 months ago I'd have laughed at a statement like this, now I am closer to crying because this guy is so unsuitable and yet people seemingly believe this about him and we have to watch him destabilize the planet.

    Off. The. Charts. Crazy.



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    #10767
    Field east
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭Field east


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184806#Comment_123184806

    yes, but do you have to throw out the baby with the bathwater or use a sledgehammer to crack a nut?



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    #10768
    ilkhanid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185550#Comment_123185550

    Seconded and applauded. Done. Anybody who doubts the complete mendacity, treachery and untrustworthiness of Trump is living in cloudcuckoo land.



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    #10769
    Dr Robert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    So, the Ukraine war not solved in a day.

    Trump will screw Gaza too.

    A lot of people were duped into voting for this charlatan



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    #10770
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump claiming that there was someone on the Federal payroll who was born in the early colonial era (1665).



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    #10771
    itsacoolday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185783#Comment_123185783

    Both Ukraine and Gaza invasions happened on Biden's watch. And Biden did not fix the problems, even though he threw many billions of US taxpayer's money in to both regions. Time to give Trump a chance, he could not be worse than Biden. Unless he falls asleep completely and there are a few more invasions somewhere in the world.



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