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They are actually worse than we were under Hodgson.
Correct.
Liverpool haven't finished lower than 8th in the top flight since getting promoted under Shankly in 1962
That includes Souness, Hodgson, Evans years.
Pep was Bayern's manager that season, was Pelligrini at City
On the field worse, but off the field Liverpool were much more precarious.
They still haven't suffered enough imo, long may it continue 😁
Joe Gomez needs surgery and likely out for the season
Awful luck for him
This must be his 4th or 5th major surgery by now, poor lad.
Exactly right.
Poor Joe. I was really hoping he’d be our starting left back for a good chunk of the run-in.
I just saw a message on the general premier league thread. I didn't realise, or I'd completely forgotten that, UTD had a 5 point lead with just 4 games left, the year the lost to City on goal difference. And we're lead to believe that 7 points with 14 remaining is insurmountable.
And they'd an 8 point lead with 6 games left.
Who is leading you to believe our lead is insurmountable. Nobody is convincing me of that. I like where we're at, but no chickens being counted.
Literally everywhere you read and look in the media, and online, the narrative is Liverpool would require a complete meltdown to lose it from here! Its obviously nonsense, and only said to get a reaction, but I just can't get over how much that narrative is being driven.
Pool are 2/7 approx which I think is fair enough…. I would personally have them slightly shorter odds but wouldnt be arguing about it.
Do people actually believe that an Arsenal team consisting of a forward line of Trossard, Sterling, Nwaneri and Merino are going to go on a huge winning streak? They've yet to win 4 PL games in a row in the entire season. Havertz and Jesus out for the season, so they have no real centre forward option.
If people look at it coldly and logically, this Arsenal team are not winning anything near all of their remaining fixtures. No chance whatsoever of that happening.
If you come to that conclusion, and believe that Arsenal could well drop points in 3 or 4 of their remaining fixtures - then it would take a complete collapse in Liverpool's form to lose the title. The wiggle room for dropped points is absolutely huge while still winning the title.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Trossard, Sterling, Nwaneri, Merino are the second coming of the Barca dream team of Stoichkov, Romario and Laudrup.
All things stand, it's more likely that Liverpool win the title by more than the current 7 point advantage they have, than Arsenal end up winning the title.
In fairness 4 PL wins in a row this season is the most Liverpool have managed
That so they can say Liverpool bottled it if they don't win the league. Its predicatable and childish.
Reality is though if we can maintain a 7 point lead after this month and Arsenal still have to go to Anfield, the league is over. Our march and april are fairly decent.
So, you don't expect Arsenal to win anything like the remaining 13 games in a row? You expect them to drop points in a few of their remaining games?
The great joy is you don't need to expect or predict anything - you can simply look at the number of points remaining (39), the size of the gap (7), the fact they play each other again, and see that yes, it is entirely possible in any number of ways for that gap to be closed in that time.
No need to be so absolutist about events before they happen, just fckin watch and enjoy. Liverpool obviously comfy favourites, but far stranger things have happened in football. Which is why we watch football.
I expect both teams will drop points, you seem really optimistic about Liverpool - and that's great, we're strong favourites and everybody knows it! But I think you also expect everybody else to be as confident as you are.
Don't worry so much about what other fans think - we're all hugely enjoying this season. If some people want to debate the difficulty of some remaining fixtures then that's what this thread is for!
I agree completely Rebel. I am thoroughly enjoying the current PL season and I have no doubt I will enjoy the remainder of it. I am very confident of that.
Most of the comments from myself in the past few days are in response to the harbingers of doom who can't see anything but Liverpool dropping points in upcoming fixtures while Arsenal steamroll all in front of them. It's embarrassing make believe with no basis in reality (especially from Arsenal's point of view with their current injury problems).
The only thing in your post I'd challenge is that it's also entirely possible in any number of ways that the gap could be widened to Arsenal by the end of the season.
Exactly.....for me the pace of decline is almost too quick...if they keep going at this rate then they might actually get their sh1t together sooner rather than later.
Just ignore them - as I say as long as you're enjoying the games that's great. I got rid of Twitter because of the FSG negativity (among other things) being brought into literally every post about the club good or bad.
Same as yourself, I expect both teams to drop points. It's Liverpool who have the 7 point lead though (it's a big lead no matter how you square it), and for Arsenal to reel them in they need a massive run. I simply cannot see it happening for them. The damage was done with their results earlier in the season, and now they have a disastrous injury crisis up front.
tbh, I don't expect anyone to feel any kind of way. I'm very optimistic Liverpool will win the title and it's one of the most enjoyable PL seasons I've watched for a variety of reasons. I just can't stand the harbingers of doom predicting Liverpool are going to drop points all over the place from here on in. It's not based in any reality.
Liverpool have lost 1 PL game in 25. Unbeaten away from home. Destroyed the Budesliga winners at Anfield, beat the CL and La Liga winners at Anfield. This is a really top side, even if performances haven't been great the past week or so. Maybe everything isn't no miserable for Liverpool and it isn't certain to end in doom!
2 things…
A seven point lead could be a 2 point lead if we were to draw to Villa and lose to City… and Arsenal win, of course. That's just between now and Sunday. So the "7 points" isn't nearly what people make it out to be, IMO.
And second… the season is catching up with the players (fatigue, form, injuries, etc…) in recent weeks - or so it seems.
The next 3 games will define the table, I think. I'm just glad it's Arsenal that are hunting us… and not City. Pity about the Everton game, because a 9 point lead would have been a turning point. If we come out of Feb with the 7 point lead… then I'll start to get giddy.
How can it be 2 points ? 7 + 1 - 3 is 5 Arsenal are only playing 1 game while Liverpool are playing 2
Liverpool + 1 to make it + 8 then Arsenal win their two games to get back to level in games played means -6 which gives a gap of 2.
We've done well maintaining our lead.
Fair going for ange to survive that run of results.
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