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Was the bottle thrown not by Liverpool fans? It was right in front of their section.
Serious strike by Tarkowski, thought when was falling to him it was being ballooned over but christ Allison had zero chance of getting to it. Awful defending for it too
Well when the defender is pushed as he is about to head it clear it will look like bad defending
No sure it'd have to be from a rogue Everton fan among them, sure the Pool fans were 100% sitting there peacefully and weren't given Doucoure a word of abuse all night.
Yawn
Oliver had a poor game, where he got the extra time is something only he knows, the stoppage wasn’t over 2 mins and there were no subs in added time. It wasn’t a free on Konate though. Slot lost his composure big time and deserved to be sent off.
Think the bottle was thrown from the away fans section
This, especially the last bit.
Oliver will still referee at the weekend and get the big games, but the occasion really got to him this evening and he caused a lot of the problems at the end.
The foul on Salah near the end, on the edge of the box, that he didn’t give was very strange - I’d say that’s what outraged Slot.
Ollie is one of England’s finest refs, he doesn’t deserve any of this will be the narrative.
The reality couldn’t be further from the truth, that’s the nicest way I’ll put it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/s/1MuvAIXUrH
This one and I'd say you could be right.
Hilarious
That happened just after the 90 though. Who cares. It would be something if it happened before Everton hoofed their hail mary passes at the end
Can't be throwing stuff on pitch like that them days should be long gone.
I don't understand this post. Why would Everton fans be sitting in the away section?
I thought it came from the Everton fans as it sounded that way based on the BT sports commentary.
Ya, I was thinking if the DRS $¢@M had been introduced in Britain, that person might have thought twice about throwing the plastic bottle on at the end. Throwing away good money. 😉
Liverpool fans going through their dossier of historic referee mistakes whenever they drop points
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That refereeing performance last night was a disgrace, there is no defending it.
You obviously didn't watch the game.
It’s clear you are trying to point score without having watched the game.
This isn’t about who you support, something is genuinely wrong. Everton won frees without any contact and actually got a free for Doucoure running straight into Diaz (who should have had an advantage which wasn’t given either).
Arsenal have been screwed by Michael Oliver as well.
As have United. Unfortunately Oliver is the golden boy for the PGMOL and nothing will ever be done about his consistently terrible refereeing performances, just like Mike Dean before him.
Great post, one point to Man United. Up to 30 points for the season now!! 😉
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Didn't see game, just the goals. Tarkowski's late, late goal only rated as a 0.08 chance of a goal - some strike!
Was Slot at it all game, or just red-carded for post-match comments?
I see Moyes, Pat Nevin and Ally McCoist all on Doucoure for being "not that clever", although Moyes' anger may stem from the fact that he will miss the next game (away vs. Palace). Everton are level with Tottenham now, and look safe to me.
This is the exchange Slott was sent off for. Looked harmless enough but we'll probably never know what he said.
I do believe it was tongue in cheek.
It's the sarcastic hand shake
Not quite Tuchel and Conte but you can see some sort of jerking motion and I'm guessing he was giving Oliver some sarcastic praise for his performance
Sending off is fair enough, all 3 of them really
To be honest it's good for Goodison to have that as it's last derby game, quality on the pitch poor all around but had the needle of 1980's encounters and in the cold light of day when you put any referee decisions aside I don't think either team did enough to warrant getting 3 points more than the other out of it. Obviously hurts more for the team who concede late but they still conceded and now Everton have another Jagielka moment to remember.
Doucouré for me was clearly Everton's best player, they won't like that he's suspended. Our midfield, especially Szoboszlai, just weren't on form at all. Gravenberch struggled too.
But thank god we don't have to go to Goodison or Old Trafford again this season. Awful fixtures.
I'm not really into referee stuff now although we'll continue to hear lots. Oliver has fallen off a cliff performance wise in past couple of seasons and as I posted at halftime it was like he had sat all week preparing how he was going to ref this derby game and overthought it - he was reffing the game he thought it was going to be instead of the one in front of him. Some really bizarre calls but overall no one massive error like we've seen before so I'm inclined to say whatever
The more important point is the flash point at the end. To be honest I think it might be the bit of fire that the team needed to light for this run in and upcoming fixtures. They need to use that energy and anger now
On to Wolves.
Watch the FA protect their perfect lil gem Michael Oliver and fine Van Dijk.
The good news is he's likely to be taken off Liverpool games for the next few weeks, even if they don't say that explicitly I bet you'll just quietly see other refs and VAR officials assigned
It's consistency again though. There was one between Oliver and Pep in A field or Old Trafford a while ago that looked way worse but Oliver didn't book Pep. If all decisions were treated the same then 99% of the complaining.
13 seconds to go of the added 5 mins at 94:47 two Everton lads clash heads then Oliver decides to add on 2 minutes.
Konate was fouled as he was about to head the ball away that lead to the equaliser [not given] even after VAR - literally everyone admits it was a foul.
For the Everton first goal yer man dived and nobody touched him Oliver gave a free.
Salah was clearly taken out of it at the edge of the box - Oliver ignores .
The reaction was mostly for Oliver giving a red to Slot for an "aggressive handshake" yet there is tonnes of videos of other managers doing the exact same thing to him, most notably Pep.
Dacoure running up to taunt and provoke Liverpool fans is what Jones rightly took exception to , this sort of thing is dangerous and Dacoure should be disciplined for it.
The ref never had control of the game and made a catalogue of errors yet again.
Do you want me to continue as to why i dont think Liverpool over reacted??
But yes i totally agree a point is not a bad result and in fairness i think a draw is a fair result on the night.
Im just pointing out Olivers countless mistakes.
I can't prove this (obviously 😅) but I think Michael Oliver has a lot of influence over other refs, you could see it with David Coote when he pretty much forced him to change his mind on a decision.
Again all speculation from me.
People reckon Slot was sent off for a handshake and that he didn't say something off colour to the ref? Give me an effin break.
