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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    Nobody is suggesting they will be "shytting themselves" but it's just bizarre Ukraine has to deal with this on top of everything else with such a weak response from europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The image says it all. Less than 6 km until the brigades in that direction are totally surrounded, that's why when these things are happening it is a good time to shoot off early and preserve your men. What do you think, do you think they should just sit in a trench waiting for the inevitable ?

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Russian tank protecting itself from getting turret-tossed by rolling into its back.

    There is a load of videos coming out of Russian hardware getting hammered in Kursk. Putin is pushing desperately to get them out of Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The image says nothing, this could be a breakthrough, it could be a retreat, it could be a static defensive position or it could be a frontline collapsing, discuss what it is and how it happened and what each side is doing about it and what losses they mayor may not be taking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭highpitcheric


    if only we could be more like the orange one.

    What can we do to appease the donald.

    He could fix this. He could fix this in a day.

    In 1 day he could fix this, he has the best answer, everybodys saying it. They come to him and they say 'you have the best answer'.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    It’s a pitty Russians don’t have the same quality of armchair generals posting here advising on their side and drove right into a trap and got cut off and exterminated as discussed here

    But FairPlay to you for calling this poster out, we have almost reached the Elon Musk style of posting where just get a line like “this is interesting” or “hmm” + <insert BlyatGPT output>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    America just hasn't done enough on this either. Biden had the option to use lend lease to give Ukraine a lot more than he has, that option has now expired. He also still has the option of allowing Ukraine to hit any target they want with Storm Shadow, SCALP and ATACMS missiles for the next couple of months but he's not doing that either. He's also now trying to get more funding approved, which will never happen as Trump will happily have the Republicans block it.

    When the US first sent ATACMS they arrived with a bang, taking out a lot of Russian helicopters in a surprise attack. As it turned out, those missiles were all that had been sent and it took months for more to arrive.

    It also took a long time, until Ukraine were out of ammo and utterly desperate, for the US to send cluster artillery munitions, which proved to be exceptionally effective against Russian meatwave attacks. Instead of opening the floodgates they then chose to only send enough to cover any gaps in artillery supply, despite the fact that the US no longer uses cluster munitions and could easily send everything they have.

    He's done good things for the US but when it comes to Ukraine he's been a limp dick of a president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    They are in the process of 5 towns being encircled. Anyway, it seems that they are evacuating now which is good for them.They live to fight another day.

    It's like this one happening overnight just north of Kurakovo as we speak. They have open space now so they don't storm towns they just encircle them. Same thing will happen in 48 hours or so here to that town on the reservoir. It's not rocket science to predict what will happen is it, just when.

    The maps show the reality on the ground. You just need to know which mappers are reliable based on what they have shown in the past, if it came about or not.

    kur.jpg

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    Do we know if any NK troops are being used for these missions? Say's a lot that Putin has to reach for them because he's scared shitless to bring in a general mobilisation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Ukraine themselves say that the Koreans are not involved in the fighting. Until i see evidence i am going to take it all with a big pinch of salt myself. Next thing you know the Taliban riding camels will be involved and everyone will believe it.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,713 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Why, are there thousands of Taliban troops in an observation role at Kursk, with camels or otherwise?

    Because there is no doubt there are North Korean troops in the Kursk region, the only question is whether they are actively engaged or not. They may be fulfilling secondary or support roles.

    So a long way away from your nonsensical camels comparison.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Police in Russia were hunting for 10 soldiers who were supposed to be sent on the special operation. Four got outside their district. They all left in taxis.



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    I've seen a few videos that are too graphic to share here of very Korean looking men getting killed by grenades from drones in the last week. Seeing as meat waves are on the zero line, the identification of enemy corpses is way down the list of things to do in front of a trench.

    Eventually we'll get footage from a drone that was in the air during of of these assaults and we'll see around 50 of the poor bastards at once stone cold dead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    You do understand that Korean looking Russian citizens live on the border with Korea don't you ? Just like millions of Chinese looking Russians who live on the border with China.

    It is 1/8th of the worlds landmass with 11 different timezones of course you are going to have oriental looking people in Russia. they all don't look like Ivan Drago you know.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Are you saying that North Korean troops haven't yet been deployed in combat or that you don't believe they are even in the theatre?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    I am going on what the Ukrainians are saying that they have not been in combat. That is if they actually exist, which no one has proved yet. For all we know it could be a load of propaganda couldn't it, we need to wait and see ?

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Exactly. It would be like France, UK, Germany and Italy all sending tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine, freeing up tens of thousands of UAF troops to head to the front lines, and expecting Putin and all the "Friends of Putin" here to say, "that's ok, I'm fine with that" just because they're not engaged on the front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭Homelander


    I would class it highly unlikely that NATO and various other states would independently confirm something so bizarrely specific as part of a conspiracy propaganda effort.

    We know NK supplies munitions. We know artillery systems from NK have been spotted moving through Russia recently. We know Russia and NK signed a defence pact. We know NK would really stand to gain from Russian military technology.

    I don't know how any of that could be used to assigned the same level of credibility to North Korean troops in Ukraine as the Taliban riding into Ukraine on camels.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Yes, yes. Wait and see. That's worked well for Europe and Ukraine for the last 10 years hasn't it…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    If this is to be believed,the NK troops are doing a good job of taking themselves out before they even reach the front!!



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    I know the difference between a Korean and a Siberian etc. Obviously we can't be sure yet but in a few days we will/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Dont you know that Ukraine is a 1000km wide country with loads of English, French, German, Polish speakers 🤣

    one one hand you have intelligence services who predicted this war saying yes Koreans are in this war

    On the other hand you have a lump of 💩 claiming with a straight face while dripping between your fingers that “nyet nyet zese are Ruskies”

    I dunno but now I have urge to wash my hands



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Olaf Scholtz has been on the blower to Putin today asking to negotiate with Ukraine.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Stewball


    That gives me a good laugh. Russia holds all the aces - they're not going to withdraw troops from the Donbass.

    The best the Ukraine can hope for is not losing any more territory.



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Russia is holding a bag of shite but Putin and his mafia think they won't to be accountable when the raven comes tapping at their chamber door



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Stewball


    Bit harsh describing the Donbass & Crimea as 'a bag of shite'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I don't think you can call the decimation of a superpowers military with record inflation and shortages as "all the aces".

    putin does seem desperate to grab land at the cost of lots (lots more than usual as well) of russian lives at the moment for some reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    On the Donbass, is depopulated towns turned to rubble, fields full of unexploded Russian bombs and randomly seeded mines + (possibly) poisoned beyond use nicer than "a bag of shíte"?

    Anyway you are welcome to spread your wings and take up one of the many exciting job vacancies that Putin might open up in these New Russian Territories his army is "liberating" if interested!



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