If darragh corcoran has been dropped that's a bit of a surprise. Didn't he hurl well enough for the club this year.
Who are the players not making the Munster college teams?
Fair point about Maynooth .
As regards Ul and UCC we had players on those teams and some starting in recent years. On UL Darragh Corcoran Niall Mason Niall Brennan Ian Byrne there could be others in UCC Joe Fitzpatrick Richie Mc Evoy those all started or came on the Fitzgibbon teams. Because they do favour the Munster counties Fair play to the players I mentioned. If our players are good enough they will start or be on Fitzgibbon panels
None of them on senior panel maybe only Niall Mason as far as I know but could be wrong.
In all fairness if I have an opinion and that makes me arrogant that's fine with me.
I'm not in any way directing any comments at you I just answered what you called me up on and I admitted twice I was wrong and apologised regarding the club team. But I still stand by my comments that Scally is an idiot.
I feel quiet strongly that our county set up is dismal. I feel we are very badly coached and I think It's the same old bull again this year so far. I do not rate Derek Lyng and definitely not Peter Donovan but I'd imagine you've guessed that by now.
As far as the u20 set up Mark Dowling and Rob Shorhall shouldn't be given an under 6 team to manage not alone a county U20 team.
If I'm wrong about them all then KK will will an U20 and Senior all ireland in 2025 and I'll be delighted to say I was wrong.
Think your being harsh on maynooth
Maynooth in particular would remind me of Carlow it a few years ago there trying to up there standard of there hurling teams there a small college and know that they can’t attract the players from the bigger hurling school in kk like st Kieran’s so they go after the players from cbs comer etc
They know that the bigger colleges ul dcu ucc etc can offer more in terms of scholarships
Carlow it wasn’t exactly a hotbed of hurling 10 years ago and look where they are now
Maynooth have seen what they have done and are trying to copy it
As regards our players on Fitz gibbon teams particularly the Munster colleges I think it’s a bit of snobbery and politics tbh I don’t think our underage players are that bad
I think it’s more fashionable to be picking Limerick Clare and cork players as Kilkenny haven’t won an awful lot the last few years
Plus the hurling landscape has changed you have better hurlers coming out of Laois Carlow Offaly Wexford Westmeath Kerry and other smaller counties which wouldn’t have had maybe 10-15 years ago
You seem to be very arrogant with some of your comments on here lately towards me and others, you charged at me last week when YOU didn't actually read the team of the year that was excluding the Al semi final squad v clare this year.
I agree a few of our clubs are managed better than our county team but you didn't make that very clear with that comment you put up 1st which is why I questioned that was all.
BTW I think our county teams are performing poorly especially U20 and in Senior camp some strange choices seem to be made like not dropping some older players, possibly instead being advised to retire rather than actually dropping them. Players I mentioned last week who performed excellently for their clubs this year I will be surprised if many of them actually get the call.
I never mentioned clubs
I wasn't talking about our clubs I was talking about county underage and senior. I think I clearly stated our senior players.
Our clubs are better managed than our county teams and that in itself is a shame.
In all fairness in everything I said is that all you have to offer
why do our clubs always do well in provincial and All Ireland series if coaching across all grades is very poor in your opinion??
No as far as I heard he stepped away completely
And with all the so called KK county players they have
They can't even get out of their Fitzgibbon group
Maybe our players are no longer at the same standard as the Cork Clare and Limerick players. I'm not saying that's the players fault it's the fault of poor coaching in this county across all grades
Again in my opinion
And that's because Maynooth will give you a scholarships if you can hold a hurl they are so desperate to win
I always thought your comments were a bit harsh but now I’m not so sure. And your bang on about the Fitzgibbon teams we are struggling to get any of our players on. Twenty years ago we were the dominant county in all the Dublin universities and Waterford IT. Now we’re not even dominant in Carlow. Only Maynooth.
I had heard he was stepping away from the seniors and moving into a director of S&C type role with Co board but now I think he’s gone completely
ye I stated earlier that shamrocks were junior I think in 1974?
Absolutely 100% it was our tactics and utterly brutal coaching that went against us.
Our tactics in the second half against Clare was too lump a high ball down on top of Walter Walsh.
Mind you the same tactics were used in the minor and u20
Lump a high ball on top of young Mc Dermot and Marty Murphy.
Would prefer to see Mickey Comerford heading up S & C
Heard Mickey walked away himself didn't agree with the uselessness going on in there
Also apparently Lyng has dropped
Darragh Corcoran Liam and Kevin Blanchfield and Conor Delaney
He is supposed to have brought in
Jeff Neary Eoin Lyng Cillian Hacket Niall Shorhall and Vereker
No match winning names there and all handy because they were on u20 teams that have won sweet f....k all
My opinion it will be worse this year and before ye all go off one it's my opinion
Also heard some of our senior hurlers can't even start on UL A teams now that's depressing
Surprised that Comerford is gone, personally I thought he did a good job and it was more lack of hurling/defined tactics that has seen us fade away late in games. Hopefully the county board will confirm the back room teams soon but after the ratification for the underage teams they might not be looking forward to trying to get them through
Heard mickey Comerford is definetly gone this time with j murphy running the S&C side of things
Did none of ye do your duty as well rounded Gaels and head in early to watch the historic football match that was on as the curtain raiser?
Christy Heffernan and a few more of the Glenmore lads would have it too.
Did The Shamrocks start at Junior when they were formed?
If that rumour is true it doesn't inspire confidence in the management! If your manager of an intercounty team you have to be ruthless! Tell lads you can either retire or be dropped that's the options, that's what happened with Cody, people mightn't like to hear that and it mighn't be nice but that's the approach needed at high level sport.
The rumours going around last month was that Tommy Walsh was being brought in to the back room team is this still happening or is it just Doherty being brought in and Wall getting a promotion from his current roll? It'll be interesting to see what changes are made to the panel, I think we need a freshen up and new approach but not sure if we'll get it.
No All Ireland in 10 years is the home truth
Not from the clubs but there was loads of that talk in the local radio and kclr podcast
No idea what you're talking about. If you have something to say say it.
the only way to pick the all stars is the first 15 are the all Ireland champions, the second team is the pick of the bunch.
There was no talk about being too good for junior in Windgap and that’s a fact.
Home truths ??? as I suspected you are indeed village light😂😂
The thing is you could pick 2 teams and they would both be equally good, but when you have only 15 there'll be always lads unlucky especially with so many matches nowadays.
Players I thought unlucky were Donnelly and Kenny, leen and diarmuid Ryan ( clare), Cathal ó Néill, Brian Hayes, Chris crummy.
You are 100 % correct. That was a total underperformance today by windgap. 1 - 12 compared to the huge scores they've been putting up all year illustrates that. Landy had a mare on the frees and Jack Doyle one of the players of the championship was taken off.
Lachtaíns were good in the second half but they could have been 6 or 7 points behind at half time. Lot of lads on here don't like home truths.
He deserved an all-star that year to be fair,he was the reason KK beat Tipp in the semi and was brilliant in the final against Clare. This years team seems to have been picked on semis and final too.
I think you have a bit of a misplaced chip on your shoulder re the media and all-stars and doing Kilkenny down, The same media certainly did fawn over certain high profile Kilkenny stars, prime example being the time DJ Carey got an all-star after playing only two games with Kilkenny in the year 2002
