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Alot of the messaging on the Ukranian side does not appear to match the frontline reality on the ground
And how would you know that? Do you have boots on the ground? Boots of the friendly kind perhaps? Or do you just keep up with TASS and that's it?…
where Russia continues to make mostly small but incremental advances everyday along the eastern front.
The tankie's traditional sleight-of-hand… talk about 'facts' but never mention numbers. What's the lives/squareKm ratio? What's the rubles/squareKm? How sustainable is that? For how much longer can they sustain that intensity of effort? Long enough for you to convince us to relent our support to Ukraine? Or long enough for Russia as a country to become thoroughly cooked? After all what happens if Russia relents its current intensity of effort?… >:D
Yet throughout we are told Russian forces are collapsing, only a matter of time…
It is. What? Just because it's taking a long time doesn't make it wrong. It just means that someone somewhere has deemed it necessary for Russia to become tender and flavorful… :P It's just to ensure that there is always a carrot in front of Putin. Otherwise Putty-boy might get scared and pull Russia out of this current quagmire and then what? No more special military operation related expenses?!… no no my friend. That won't do at all!
yet they've consolidated their territorial gains.
Have they now?…
Then there are references to the Kursk operation (I think that was a big mistake and led to Ukraine having to commit scarce resources away from the active fronts but the Generals know far more than me)
Yeah… we know you do… tankies such as yourself usually follow the Kremlin talking points to the letter… xD
which I think was more a political choice than a military one.
Duhhh… yeah… it was… everybody was talking about Israel… and then suddenly the middle east 'conflict' was no more in Western Media. Sooooo…. it worked perfectly!
It regained western attentionbut beyond that it's a struggle to see what the benefit was or will be in the end.
LOL! So that means you don't know who's footing the bill for Ukraine's defense… or is it the case that you aren't familiar with the concept of RoI? Or maybe you are hoping we aren't?…
They are trying to say it's leverage in a negotiation
It is. But it's also good, fun, wholesome humiliation… xD
but you could equally say that Russia would be happy enough for Ukraine to have troops tied up there rather than in the east.
Ohhh… they really aren't…
Anyone can look at the Deepstate map and the whole situation is told there. There is not much to be optimistic about.
Yeah… we don't look at lines on maps… we prefer to listen to news from Russia… especially about everyday live news… have you heard the short video posted by the Chinese mercenary 'fighting' in Ukraine?… now that was amusing…
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You'd think a self appointed Moderator would at least bother to read up on the latest forum rules wouldn't you, instead of clogging up the thread with schoolyard nonsense.
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@John Doe "Just because it's taking a long time doesn't make it wrong. It just means that someone somewhere has deemed it necessary for Russia to become tender and flavorful… "
At first slowly, then suddenly.
Voices getting louder with warnings that North Korean soldiers will be considered fair game in Ukraine.
Lukashenko saying in a nutshell it would be insane for Putin to send North Korean fighters to Ukraine as NATO will respond.. something I wouldn’t expect him to say.
Could we now be finally seeing the Wests red lines when it comes to this war?
No-one in the west wants to send troops (except people who want someone else to do it), so it seems unlikely any red lines will be crossed.
Response does not have to be troops.
Certainly feels like the N Korean troops are a big escalation, seems inevitable that other states are going to get pulled in too. Putin isn't going to stop before he's dead. Horrible feeling of inevitability about it. Then there's the Trump wildcard next month. Biden should have honored the Budapest agreement and made it clear to Putin that invasion was not an option, but he didn't and here we are.
So it's all Biden's fault?
that’s a good point
Ukraine don’t need more troops as
Zelensky should reply with “fine we are going to build nuclear weapons then” which would only take them few weeks apparently
Or if there is ever a breakthrough by Russians and complete rout is imminent
Then bomb the crap out of Orbans villas etc hence forcing NATO to invade and occupy Ukraine, better than being occupied by Russians, did wonders for Germany
I don't see how NK troops in Russia, seems to be confined to Kursk for now, is a big escalation when millions of NK shells been dropped on Ukrainian towns wasnt viewed as an escalation.
Very true. The Iranian drones, missiles, North Korean shells and missiles have been condemned by the west and pretty much that's all that happened. Zero repercussions for Russia, Iran or NK.
You now how armies from 2 nuclear powers involved and the west is still seeing granting permission for Ukraine to use long range missiles as an escalation 🤷🏻♂️
There will be no western ground troops for goodness sake the west won't even provide Ukraine what it needs to win equipment wise.
10,000 Koreans will only replace the 10,000 Russian casualties that will be out of action by the time the Koreans get to the front line. Then they'll all be dead in a week.
Russian blood feud getting more bloody me thinks
I see the way some coal mines are closing in Russia and cities are already reporting shortages of coal.
Sounds like the pincers on that cauldron in Kursk have been closed
I think overall the US cocked up on Ukraine…. First Obama, then Trump, now Biden….
Putin saw a hesitant West and has taken full advantage
kremlin scutter
Da, tis so
You're literally posting the words of Vladimir f*cking Putin? Seriously?
It's one thing to post the likes of Marsheimer, Musk or David Sacks. But Putin himself??
Jesus Christ. Instant ignore list addition. Thanks for the heads up.
You can see whose been on the beach and who's hiding in a bunker there 😁
I remember Bush saying he looked into Putin’s soul and liked what he saw.
Think I saw another video clip of Lavrov barking at a functionary at another one of those intl. gatherings where Russia is still welcome. Seems to have a short fuse.
I suppose it is draining having to shovel loads of shít every day for Putin, who (perhaps?) won't allow him head off into the sunset.
When was that?
Because Bush seems to at least have had the capacity to revise his assessments, and seems to have been much stronger in words and acts than Trump wrt Putin.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-slams-russias-invasion-of-georgia/
"We helped airlift Georgian forces from Iraq back to Georgia. We delivered assistance in military aircraft to try to send the message that this was something that threatened a wider confrontation with Russia. As you know Condoleezza Rice famously outed Sergey Lavrov when Lavrov told her his objective was to overthrow the Saakashvili government and take Tbilisi. She went public and tried to establish that it was a red line and I think in some sense, it did deter Russia from going further."
https://civil.ge/archives/249301
Think one of the porters walked on Lavrov's foot live on camera on purpose when Putin was speaking in front of him, the way he couldn't blow his fuse.
It was early in Putin's reign, but yes he changed his tune later.
Was it one of the flights to or from Kandahar?
A good rule of thumb is that when Putin/the Kremlin says something, the opposite of that is true.
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