The car is irrelevant. Any type 2 charger will work.
details attached.
Tethered or untethered? God this ev business is a minefield 😂
So you pay them about €1000 ish for supply and fit and then receive €300 back via a grant?
It's not that bad, something you need to sort out once
Whichever one you choose is up to you. Tethered can be more convenient since you only need to plug the car in, but tends to be bulkier and you need somewhere to stow the cable. Some chargers can have the cable wrapped around them to might have a hook on the side
Untethered is neater looking and might be more suitable if you want the charger on the front of your house where it's visible. The disadvantages are you need your own charging cable and you need to plug both ends in
Pretty much.
Providing your house wiring doesn't need upgrading yes that's all you'll have to pay.
Tethered every time. You don’t need the hassle of taking a 5m cable out of your boot every time you want to charge.
I have an untethered unit in my garage, but just keep a spare charging cable permanently connected to it.
My previous charger was a tethered one, but found the storing of the cable more awkward, trying to wrap it up after use.
Mod Note: Home charge point discussion moved to the home charge point thread
Given all the BS that’s online, on Social Media and silly MSM articles by idiot journalists, it’s actually good to see that EV’s are sought after out there in the real world.
There's a new one now
https://m.independent.ie/business/technology/ev-drivers-cause-more-crashes-than-petrol-or-diesel-drivers-according-to-university-of-limerick-research/a457791101.html
Interesting….. comparing domestic EV cars to a massive dataset of professionally driven fleet vehicles that could well be 90% diesel?
"The research is based on telematic data from 125m commercial fleet vehicle trips involving 14,642 vehicles over a nine-month period in 2022 in the Netherlands."
Theres some gold nuggets in that article.
It cited another report that held that 22pc of drivers “found the mental workload of operating and switching to an EV stressful” compared to traditional combustion engine vehicles.
I would agree with that stat based on my observations of drivers that cant park a car between 2 white lines…..
It's impossible to make any comment on that study. There's no detail provided.
When you look at other studies in Norway there's a load of supporting information. Type of accident, time of day, location of accident. Which means you can see patterns in it.
With this study nothing.
The article is here if you want to look at it.
I could go through the statistics and analysis they conducted and raise loads of queries, but maybe I'll just pay the $3,670 and get my own article published in this journal too…
I'm not sure what depreciation of an EV in Ireland in 2024 has to do with this article either?
The Irish Independent article reads like a clickbait summary made by someone who doesn't understand what he's talking about, but liked the stated conclusions (even if they don't match the data they're supposed to represent). I see it has already been picked up by the standard trolls in Irish "journalism" anyway.
Reading the full article also leaves me with more questions than answers.
It seems to have results but no reasons for the result, partly because they removed a lot of the useful demographics in anonymising then ran it though a predictive ML model.
It's not actual data but predictive data. Then so much of it does not align with other studies or even itself. It's own telemetric data does not align with it's own outcomes.
I'm non the wiser after reading it. Maybe it's just above my head.
I heard a snippet of one of the researchers on the radio news this morning. "We know all about the problems of EVs with charging issues, battery problems, cost of sales, cost of repairs and its important that these risks are also added to the conversation".
That sounds like someone wanting to make sure their report is making lots of media outlets. Who would be interested in a study that shows EV drivers generally drive slower and more economically? Or that the braking power is greater than most ICE cars.
Have to wonder about an study that infers automatics are harder to drive and EVs are a higher fire risk and all the other fud.
"Further investigation into first-party damage costs reveals that over one-third of EVs and HYBs incur damages of over €1,000 when being involved in an accident. When considering the battery and potential replacement costs, these values indicate a significant financial burden to current and prospective buyers of EVs. Combining these financial burdens with our risk analysis and emerging fire risks of lithium-ion batteries indicates that EVs and HYBs contribute significant risk to their owners, policymakers and businesses."
Prepare for further increases in your insurance policies.
The EV faceache group has a load of posts from new people saying they can't get insured. Usually with about 20+ replies from people saying they had no problem, and giving companies to try with example quotes.
I will say manufacturers have them only themselves to blame if they don't counter these repair stories with a robust supply of parts and repairs.
It's not like there aren't expensive repair stories with ICE cars or supply issues with ice parts or technical staff to do repairs. They just aren't getting the same exposure in the media.
I believe the first €45000 of an EV is still bik exempt until the end of 2025 after today's budget
I rang up liberty insurance on Friday to switch my insurance over to an ev from ice. They wanted to bump it up from the existing 600 to 800 so I cancelled and got it for 600 off a broker. Too many people would rather spend their time complaining instead of shopping around. If everyone did this they wouldnt get away with these nonsensical increases for no reason except to fleece us
Aviva are very good for insurance on our ev. We have id4 and id3 both are about €350
That's not true in every case, and Ev insurance is on the way up for sure. Even the company called evinsurance have said they won't insure Ev's anymore🤣
What's not true?
Insurance is on the way up for everyone.
Has been for a while. All the talk of reducing litigation and legal costs goes nowhere. Been hearing the same sob story from insurers my whole life.
That’s not true either. My EV insurance has consistently dropped, including this years premium.
It “may” be increasing for some, but it’s decreasing or stable for others.
And mine has gone up, shopped around, still went up. Many people saying their insurance company will no longer insure their Ev and most companies didn't want too know when I mentioned Tesla. We'll know soon enough, but anecdotally it's not looking great and that study is just another stick to beat Ev's with.
Agreed, but Ev's seem to be getting hit a little worse, refusing to renew policies etc.
I was referring to your claim that premiums are rising because people can't be arsed shopping around.
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