Clarity on new Current Affairs rules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122599429#Comment_122599429

I don't believe it was applied unevenly.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122599279#Comment_122599279

at the risk of going off topic….

Far too much credence was given to a minority shouting "mod-bias" at the expense of the majority of posters who if anything wanted more moderation.

those two aren't mutually exclusive, a lot shouting mod bias would be happy with a bit more moderation overall, if it was applied evenly, over all.

Caustic

Ye should bring back people being able to post new threads about whatever all the time, the obsession with keeping the place tidy or whatever and forcing all conversation into a few threads was really stifling and frankly an awful idea for the users and really just for the mods. More new threads is more interesting for people

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598873#Comment_122598873

I requested this account be closed, couldn't be dealing. enjoy

Polar101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122599204#Comment_122599204

It was quite useful until the brilliant idea of posting private messages no-one wanted to read.

Irish Aris

Whatever about the new rules, the new warning process with accumulated bans sounds very similar to the soccer forum, minus maybe the DRP process... and it worked.

The only thing I'm not sure is whether in Soccer the warnings are permanent - there used to be a reset every couple of years, but that was years ago.

I think longer term it might be a good thing for CA - mind you though I don't frequent the forum, so I don't know the extent of the damage…

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122599092#Comment_122599092

No, it's not about the mods. I just can't comprehend how the result of the of that feedback thread is someone, or a number of people, getting the idea that there was a widespread desire for there to be less moderation in the CA forum. I do not believe that idea is true. Far too much credence was given to a minority shouting "mod-bias" at the expense of the majority of posters who if anything wanted more moderation. My first reaction to reading the new rules was…I don't think I want any part of this brave new world that the CA forum is going to become.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598313#Comment_122598313

Whose line is it anyway?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122599092#Comment_122599092

Well, i tried to keep my post on the topic of clarifying what the rules were, but ymmv....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122599092#Comment_122599092

It was inevitable. But, PLEASE, it's Meandering not off topic.

EmmetSpiceland

So is this just another moany “have a go at the mods” thread or has it just gone off topic?

volchitsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598260#Comment_122598260

a mod interjected because I wasn't using full sentences and gave a pre warning. Now you can call that what you want but at the end of the day it's just bad moderation.

Wow I hadn't realised that. It's disappointing given how slow mods were to intervene on the personal abuse such as you mention.

They do seem to have started to take some people to task, finally, but it's frankly bizarre that a lack of complete sentences should have got a more energetic response than the multiple instances of lies and abuse that were being posted on that thread.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598569#Comment_122598569

Yeah that should all be available at the bottom of the web page where Terms of Use is etc. either in the TOU or a link for general rules.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598399#Comment_122598399

I think boards is like the UK at the minute, we have a constitution, it's just not written down all in the one place, or in some cases not written down at all...

Found that 'dont be a dick' rule

Home› Talkto...› Boards.ie› Boards.ie Help & Feedback› Newbies & FAQ›***READ THIS FIRST - Forum Charter (The Rules) - READ THIS FIRST***

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2056307178/read-this-first-forum-charter-the-rules-read-this-first#latest

Although there's only three rules there:

Attack the post, never the poster
Don't use text speak
Don't be a dick

I think the inclusivity bit was just a post in a random Help Desk thread by Niamh:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110864714#Comment_110864714

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122597204#Comment_122597204

I don't believe it's about changing the mind of the poster, it's usually more about pointing out the lies/misinformation/bias/hypocrisy of the poster, for the benefit of other posters.

It's no good ignoring someone spreading lies that others then believe.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598372#Comment_122598372

I tried to find the 'dont be a dick rule' the other week and I couldn't find it anywhere anymore, or the one supposedly about the boards stance on inclusivity.

Do I get my spake in now, as they say, or hauld my wihst till 2/3rds of the posts are deleted and the thread is closed?

nobody can seem to find these rules written down when they go looking for them so, as I mentioned earlier, issues like these have been a grey area and we are clarifying that they are explicitly not allowed

@Ten of Swords can I speak freely on this?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598326#Comment_122598326

weird, very weird.

Raichų

very strange indeed. Besides being totally unnecessary it’s just strange.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598313#Comment_122598313

it's a little like being told to not be mean to your stalker when you tell them to leave you alone.

Raichų

Welcome to boards, where you send unsolicited or unwanted PM’s to continue an argument that doesn’t really matter and become belligerent you’re told to fcuk off.

God I love the internet.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598286#Comment_122598286

I posted in response to the change of moderation and how it resulted in self moderation. I never mentioned the poster but conveyed the nature of the problem. They came here and asked me to post the pm, which I never intended to do.

This is part of the problem, there are posters who are only engaging to bait other posters and there is no moderation for that. If it comes down to self moderation in private then fine, let it be that. But that's not what that poster is doing and the fact he's being permitted says it all.

Every point in the new rules has been broken, every single one of them but it comes down to the personal decision of a mod as to who and how they apply.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598260#Comment_122598260

I meant how you are causing this thread to meander. 🙄 If I had any interest in that other thread I'd have read it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598206#Comment_122598206

A mod oversaw that thread and not once stepped in when other people were being personally abused and attacked, someone told another poster to F off on one occasion and not once was a warning issued.

I assumed as it was Sunday and people were having a day off but then later when I attempted to address some of the points being made (I hadn't engaged up til that point) a mod interjected because I wasn't using full sentences and gave a pre warning. Now you can call that what you want but at the end of the day it's just bad moderation.

The fact that I bowed out of the thread should have been enough to suggest that I had no interest in arguing and didn't want to fall foul of the rules so instead the poster contacted me via pm and continued the argument there. Zero moderation and zero ability to do anything about it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122598216#Comment_122598216

TBF threadbans weren't exactly prison/forum bans and in the inverse they at least have proposed a system where bans going forward would be swifter and harsher (though I think there are some clear problems with the system as I said above, regarding scope and warnings not expiring)

So open the prison gates rather than impose harsher sentences? It seems a bit of a cop out that pandered to a few very vocal posters in the feedback threads while giving the fingers to all other posters.

@Babyreignbow @Overheal is this the way threads will go under the rule that they can "meander"? If it is, we're doomed.