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Plenty of reports of poisoning at communal group facilities this past year in Russia. Reporters are saying it's because of lack of hygiene or substitution with cheaper lower grade food.
Military vehicles and equipment, no matter how advanced, are going to go down in a warzone. It's sad to see, but it's going to happen unfortunately.
There must be plenty of ex F16 pilots around the world who could volunteer to fly for Ukraine, restrict them to flying over Ukrainian territory to prevent them being captured by the Russians, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a few "Volunteer"s flying around out there.
I have heard 3 accounts of how it was lost-
It happens all the time. The US president has the executive right to donate or sell for a token price any equipment that is to be scrapped.
No congress etc.
That alone is enough to transform a country's army in and if they will was there would have seen Ukraine differently set.
They didn't want that for their own reasons. Probably out of fear of Putin escalating and of a Russian defeat leading to a chaotic collapse of that country.
It could be hopium on my part believing this but time will tell. What we do know is Russia hasn't done a general mobilisation yet they've been taking heavy losses attacking for almost a year now.
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Impressive, the US is aggressively ramping up artillery shells per month.
Good to see.
The target rate of production will keep Ukraine holding the line for a few days a month, presuming the entire supply goes to them, which it won't.
How far backwards the west has gone in many ways in terms of fighting abilities is nothing short of incredible.
The modern tech is incredible but somethings are volume driven, when they took Mosul back from islamic state they put an artillery round in to pretty much every house in the city.
Russo nazis
A Ukrainian MP is saying the F-16 was shot down by a Patriot missile due to "lack of co-operation" between units.
Nobody will ever know.
These look cool
I'd rather the Ukrainian secret service managed to do to his kids what they did to Dugin's daughter, might pain him even more.
It still surprises me that Ukraine don't carry out more operations like that within Russia to create fear. Or bomb that TV studio that runs the nightly warmongering programme. Legitimate targets
Bad about the plane, worse news that the pilot was lost. Another devastated family
My guess is user error. Takes s long time go get sufficiently trained in how to operate one of those.
Still, very sad to hear
Like I said before. Those of us here needed to be prepared for this news. These things are the furthest from invincible and the first real news apart from their appearance in Ukraine was almost certainly gonna be the first one destroyed. It's a real shame the pilot was lost though.
Seems to be a toss up between a pilot error and possibly one being shot down by mistake during the recent wave of cruise missile and drone attacks. Both seem pretty likely.
That‘s probably the worst part, given that there‘s already a shortage of pilots. According to the Economist, there are ten F-16s in Ukraine as of the beginning of August, with ten more expected by the end of the year, which would be enough to form a squadron with some spares. It‘s really the training pipeline that‘s the bottleneck now, and don‘t see how that can be resolved.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/08/04/how-much-of-a-difference-will-ukraines-new-f-16s-make
Flying over the most active war zone in the world.
These things happen unfortunately.
How many locals did Russia kill?
Bad news about the pilot.
Disaster. Only 5 F16’s left and worst of all the pilot died.
I would rather see them destroyed than let Russia have them.
Well........fcuk.
Such wanton, pointless destruction at this stage. It's clear Vlad isn't going to win… he's just continuing on now because he's backed himself into a corner and has nowhere else to run other than admit his mistake and negotiate. I really hope Russia are hit with massive reparations which will be actually enforced by the West.
It must be soul destroying to see your home, your town/ city village - where you've grown up, made memories, carved out a life, friendships, built industry, farms etc. all turned to rubble for nothing other than one man's bloody hubris. I hope he dies screaming.
Just looking at beautiful pictures from of Provatorsk.
To think in a few weeks Russia will be pounding it to rubble and it will end up looking like hell.
Like Bakhmut and Avdivka.
Utterly depressing what Russia are allowed get away with. All just seems normal now.
It will take decades for Russia to recover from this war, regardless of the outcome. If they win eastern Ukraine will become a nature reserve because they won't have the money to do anything with it. And they won't be able to live in the cities they destroyed.
Yes. Doesn't make sense sanctions and yet we keep dealing with Russia.
Correct tho we in Europe are not helping
Yes, that and keeping the foot on Russia's oil jugular will eventually bring Putin down.
I've been crowing about this for the past few years. The threat to nuclear power stations should be reasonable grounds for NATO to take back the power plants and dams in occupied areas. Let Putin moan as much as he wants, just take them and let the UN or someone secure them.
While yes the US can do a lot more
At end of the day they won’t be the ones impacted if there is a Chernobyl or Fukushima style disaster like could have happened after a Russian strikes few days ago
Beside targeting a dam to flood millions in Kiev they also attacked remaining nuclear plants and surrounding infrastructure
Europe needs to **** wake up
Those 300bn of seized Russian state assets locked up in Brussels which EU and Germany doesn’t want to give to Ukrainians can end this war
