Please use this thread to continue discussing the war in Ukraine.
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I think Putin knows Luka won't actually order his troops to cross into Ukraine, I think this is all he can do. Order his troops to the border on the hope that Ukraine pulls troops from Kursk to defend.
I don't think Luka has an iron grip on the population or army as Putin does, so he could be signing his death warrant were he to order his troops across the border.
Don't mix up the police force with the army. As far as I know the security structures are still very much in place. What is needed is for the army to turn on a Luka or the police force but as with Russia they're higher up the pecking order at generally better compensated by maintaining the status quo.
If Luka ordered his troops across and could maintain power, then he would have done it long before now. Putin could always use more foreign cannon fodder in order to make his domestic casualty numbers look better.
Poland should move some of their forces to the Belarus border for "Exercises".
It's a Colt. If there is any fixed wing aircraft which can carry passengers in which everyone can walk away after landing in a forest, that is the aircraft which can do it.
Missed the post on the Russian pianist then? Or just ignored it because contradicts your narrative?
Days since being reminded that Russia is an epic burning dumpster populated by neo Nazis , 0
Save your thoughts and prayers for people who will die today, the largest missile and drone attack (launched by ordinary Russians) this year so far ongoing last 6 hours
Another massive air attack in Ukraine this morning, at least 3 dead
The post of yours I quoted served absolutely no purpose other than to belittle the contributions of others while contributing nothing yourself. That seems to have gone over your head completely. I never said you don't actually otherwise contribute to the thread.
I belittled the content of the post, not the poster, two very different things, because the content was obvious nonsense. Posting wild rumours from people known to make up stuff contributes less than nothing and wastes time and deserves to be called out. Stick to reliable sources, it's a simple task.
And still up in the air which side is going to regret their strategy:
Ain’t back seat moderation against the rules?
"As expected, Russia "congratulated" the people of Ukraine on Independence Day, launching a massive missile attack on energy infrastructure facilities. In response, the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked a military airfield in Engels, but several drones hit residential buildings in Saratov and Engels."
The worst part is that most of these launch platforms could have been taken out
That's the way I see it too. But you never know. If Uncle Vlad promises him safe harbour in Moscow in the event that things go south, maybe it's a dice the fat f**k would be willing to take… send in the tanks - if it works, I look strong and tough and have Uncle Vlad's favour for years to come… if it backfires - Uncle Vlad will have me and my truckloads of cash and gold safely over the border in the blink of an eye.
The dream of course is that this war turns decisively in Ukraine's favour, taking Luka out and bringing Belarus back from the dark ages in exchange for sending Russia there.
Russian media and talking heads and their extended zoo of useful idiots are crapping themselves as Telegram (after Durov done a deal with KGB) is widely used in Russia and especially within the armed forces
Somewhere in France about now
I thought Mr. Cool ICE's post was a bit thin-skinned but I wouldn't call it back seat moderation. There's clearly very little moderation on this thread, else we wouldn't have had the three or four pages of back and forth scutter last week with posters trying to discredit others by misquoting and misrepresenting posts.
Edit: not worth engaging
Do they ?
I’m not sure if they do, but support for Ukraine would need to be further ramped up
Hope Belarus troops are well briefed on the “I want to live” program
To add to that, here was me thinking he was Canadian.
That's a good article, lots of reports from Pokrovsk about being outnumbered 4 to 1, shells shortage, one fired by Ukrainian Vs 10 by the Red army, new recruits who can't shoot properly and won't shoot men, experienced soldiers exhausted on the front line.
It probably was the right thing for Ukraine to do but there was a bit of desperation and roll of the dice, keeping going for pokvrosk is definitely the right thing for the reds, they get that and a large open stretch of country awaits them.
War Crime of the day
I know with regards to drones that are going 100s if not thousands of kms into each other's land I would of thought as each side has untold amounts I would of thought let's say the Ukrainian side would of launched a massive strike on say targets in Moscow but in say 1 operation say 5 to 10 thousand. More like when allies were bombing Berlin. Now I mean not to hit civilian targets but more government targets etc. I'm just surprised no side has launched something as massive as this in say 1 go. It's more a few dozen here few dozen there.
Yes it was a gamble and a morale booster at an important time and allowed them to do some serious damage to Russian equipment and facilitate prisoner exchanges. But is it turning the tide of the war? Doesn't look like it, which is why the Ukrainians now keep pleading with allies to allow them to use long range weapons within Russia, it's the only chance to keep some kind of momentum going. The allies should of course give a resounding Yes to this request
But from the Russian position it makes a lot of sense, everything is called a war crime these days, it's war, killing and impeding the other side is the name of the Game.
it’s a clear war crime and not the first time either for Russia in this war
Articles 53 and 56 of 1970s amendments to Geneva conventions that both of the parties in this war signed up to
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He would be safe in Moscow?
