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Talking out of both sides of his mouth!
Since Russia's rail system is already creaking, the destruction of the oil terminal at Rostov should have a significant impact,-the fuel tanks will have to travel further on an already congested system , to bring fuel to Donbas and crimes,
The Kerch straight ro-ro rail ferries being "removed"won't help , either the fuel will have to be transferred - or the trucks run at half capacity, either way valuable trucks held up ,
And one of the other main alternatives to Rostov , would have been the the line through kursk , well one end of that isn't transporting anything for a while 😉
None of it fatal to russian rail - yet - but it's ratcheting up the pressure and stress
When you think about how many Ukrainians have and still are being killed by Russians, a nuclear attack by Putin which in turn would trigger such massive retaliation against him, that it would 100% destroy his ability to wage war, effectively stopping the war and the killing of Ukrainians and the destruction of Ukraine infrastructure.
Looks like the Russians may be trying to bully another European country from supporting Ukraine. First the Germans, now Norway.
https://www.twz.com/air/sabotage-confirmed-at-norwegian-air-base
Not sure if anything comes of this, but we will see
What would that mean then I wonder? There allowed engage, Russian drones, missiles, cruise missiles. But would they be allowed shoot Russian planes over Ukraine sky? Or only if they shot 1st? Sure might as well go to war with Russia then if that's the case. Your killing them in the sky then. It's more or less a shooting war then.
Seeing as the Russians have opted for WW1-style trench warfare and pointless "over the top" full-frontal infantry assaults, perhaps the Ukrainians have decided to try the even older-style mediaeval siege warfare, with the advantage of being able to cut off all useful supply lines from behind the occupied territories, without having to send any troops around the back?
This new rocket-drone is surely going to put the wind up the Russian commanders. It's one less reason to worry about who gets elected to the White House, and one more reason to move yet more valuable assets yet further away from the frontline. There must surely come a point where the supply lines on the Russian side are so long, thin and congested that Ukraine will be able to target so frequently that the occupied territories will simply run out of sufficient men and materials to mount an effective defense.
If things go nuclear, I'm assuming that's the end of human civilization which would not be good for anyone let alone Ukraine?
Actual declared goals as reported by Reuters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-goals-russias-special-military-operation-ukraine-remain-unchanged-2024-02-07/
Ah yes, the nuke threat being waved around again. How many times has it been recycled now as a not so vague threat.
Very unlikely at a world level and if it does, well you or I mightn't have to worry about it.
Meanwhile onwards with stopping the imperialist ambitions of a wannabe Tsar of some ancient Russian Empire.
Even Lukashenko can smell the direction of things now and presumably getting more nervous by the week.
FFS here you go again.
Take a few iodine tablets and you’ll be grand 🙄
No one wants a nuclear conflict , including Russia,a tactical strike on Ukraine would have limited effect,because of the length of the front ,and would probably result in a full on destruction of all russian assets outside of Russia proper , and since pretty much the entire russian is in Ukraine, they'd probably be staying there as fertilizer,
And a strategic strike would be even more serious, especially if it didn't work
Putin was hoping to go down in russian history as "the great" like his idols , not as "the awful " , or the disaster , and certainly not to be remembered as the ruler who finished Russia ,
Ah one of our Vatniks returns. You've left us in the dark for a while now. Really rude of you.
No one wants a nuclear conflict , including Russia
Hard to disagree with that although there's probably some nutters who'd like it. @jmreire outlined a strange scenario to which I responded.
I wouldnt worry ,its always darkest before the Don
In the context he responded to? No it would not. Just read back and you will find out what was discussed.
This yoke is still going lol.
No one wants nuclear war. There however individuals who believe in appeasing Putin and giving him whatever he wants because he has nuclear weapons.
Putin's plan is to conquer Ukraine, absorb it into Russia and pretty much erase the Ukrainian culture and language (which is why they are dismantling Ukrainian identity in occupied areas and forcing children to only learn Russian in schools).
You've responded to that by regurgitating Kremlin propaganda as reported on.
If this was the first time you've done that in this thread I'd have more patience, but yet again you appear to parrot Russian propaganda.
Do you support Putin or do you just "hate the West" so much that you share the same page as Putin and keep repeating this stuff?
(And don't try the "I'm just asking questions" or "I don't know much about this" lark again)
The kremlin says a lot of things. They also said that they would honour the Budapest agreement and that they wouldn't invade Ukraine.
My rule of thumb is that whatever the Russians say, the opposite is true.
And if I remember correctly, my last reply to a comment of yours was along the lines of " YAWN", so in case you have forgotten here it is again… "YAWN".
YAWN…….Thats even more than your comments deserve,,,completely ignore would be a better option.
I can't see ol Vad nuking anything other than a pizza in the microwave. Not that he would dare try that either. 😁
Russian passenger plane makes an emergency landing in forest. All were fine according to Kremlin press.
At the conference of the federal leadership of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, they demanded to “overcome the cult of personality” of Putin and called his personnel policy “vicious”..
The communist party conference is on.
Another paramilitary leader in putin's empire speaks out on the failings of their great leader:
NATO member Turkey already shot down a Russian plane, you know what happened? Nothing
Putin is absolutely terrified of NATO who can march into Kremlin take a 💩 on one of Putin’s infamous long tables, and all Putin would do is grin and comment it smells like roses.
That city has been renamed to Roastov
When you say scammers pretended to be from the Kremlin but what you really mean were the scammers really were from inside the Kremlin.
The " All were fine" seems to be the standard ending to each and every Kremlin announcement of this nature! But of course, using the standard interpretation of the Russian language (Kremlin version) Most of them were either injured or dead.
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For all the questioning around Musks position on the war, and the stoking of other clowns on his platform, turns out he's financed by rich Russians