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Putin has already responded with everything he can. He went full tilt ages back.
Nice little narrative you are trying to push about Ukraine only invading until Russia decides it wants to stop them.
The strategy Ukraine has been doing is all about defanging Putin. When they had a good chunk of Russian aircraft in range of American hardware all lined up and the US wouldn't allow them be hit. It really must have stung. Worse still when the Americans told Putin what could have happened so they moved the aircraft. Thankfully now Ukraine has their own drone manufacturing and hardware to take out Russian aircraft while lined up on the airfield without having to inform the Americans of plans. As the actor in Avatar said "How do you like when they are shooting back at you?"
Putin is beginning to realise the only way he'll have a military left is leave Ukraine. UKR put the Russian numbers at 600k lost so far. Pride and ego is still driving him to send more men to die. Pride and ego is no good if you've no airforce and navy though.
Again true, but tip toeing around Putin isn’t a viable strategy either… as still Children’s hospitals get targeted.
True. But if we're been honest, I do expect Putin to respond the only way he knows how to. Lashing out and destroying civilian infrastructure and accommodation.
I fully expect to hear horrific reports of hospitals, schools, power generation facilities, etc, to be targeted on a much larger level shortly.
Because thats just the kind of cnut he is.
and we were doing so well 😃
Some video of this as it continued to get pummelled;
make sure to turn the captions on for full effect :)
Ukraine won't 'sit back' per se, but they will have to stop very soon in terms of their current advances in Kursk. What are their options? They aren't taking very much ground nor occupying any massive area of a front line thereby tying up major Russian forces. They can't keep marching on with such a narrow advance.
Look at how much of Ukraine Russia still occupies in the South compared to the comparative area taken around Kursk. Any success by Ukraine is to be welcomed, but the scale of this, by area is very small in comparison to the area already lost to the south and they are continuing to lose ground there. Russia can well afford to deal with the Kursk incursion slowly as they continue to make headway south. How long can Ukraine maintain their incursion at Kursk in reality…none of us know.
There was a concern raised earlier in the year the Russia could use biological and chemical weapons. It used Syria as a testing/practice ground previously for chemical weapons so it wouldn't be their first go at it.
Things can always get worse.
How, suicide by nukes? Russia is not holding anything back conventional weapons wise.
What has Ukraine to fear by even more BS?
Not really. There is more of a danger if Ukraine sits back.
The danger in all of these recent Ukrainian success's is that the response from Putin also increases in its requirement for retribution - both in actuality on the ground and in propaganda.
The gloves are slowly coming off.
Looks like uke had a mole within their allies and now they're operating in secret
This is sensational. What will the actual number be I wonder -
He's an absolute tramp but are you surprised Russia employs this strategy when the rate of deportations is tiny. They have Europe by the balls in this regard. Hardline approach by the EU leads to stability in Europe and Russia's dirty tactics won't win.
A few reports about this
He's the same man that supports Putin and the Kremlin. The same Putin and the Kremlin that floods the EU with refugees through conflict in Africa, Syria and Ukraine. The same Putin and the Kremlin that pays warlords to ferry migrants across the med into the EU. The same Putin and Kremlin that tells migrants in their home countries of the benefit system in each country. Then ferries them to airports and puts them on a plane for the EU and advises them what to do. The same Putin and the Kremlin that flies them in military planes to Russia and Belarus and pushes them on and across the borders of Poland and the Baltic countries. The same Putin and the Kremlin who've organised Orban to allow Russian passport holders passage through Hungary and into the EU as part of their continued war against the EU since 2014 by using migrants. And these migrants are granted Russian passports if they'll continue into the EU which they dump anyway in the EU.
Orban is always anti EU. Using migrants was his stick though. But if he never supported Putin it would never have been half the situation it is now. He's publicly throwing his toys out of the pram, under orders from Putin and he's just threatened to bring in all the migrants through Russia with Russian passports that he's now gotten the paper work through. This is his weapon and Putin's to use against the EU. It always was. But domestically Orban won elections on it. But internationally he was supporting Putin to ratchet up the migrant situation to keep himself in power while talking from his backside publicly.
He's a dangerous dope who gets away with hell. Russian stooge.
He is doing the exact opposite tho
And has opened the door to immigration from Russia (which by every measure is very much third world) and is deliberately trying to directly flood Europe with immigrants, and potentially much worse, how do we know these Russians that will pour in via Hungary are not murderers and rapists from this war
He's dead right on this issue though. Hungary has stopped so many 3rd world immigrants breaking into the EU. He could open the border and allows a tsunami to flood Europe. The majority of Europeans support Hungary on their hardline immigration stance but it falls in deaf ears in Brussels.
Think this could be partly the reason.
They're on the move again
Why would you question such a clear photo?
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Sorry, general site question, some posters have registered users 2,, most seem to have it blank,, what is it about?
First post eh?
Both I'd assume but I'd be pretty sure he's breaking all sorts of international law regarding the treatment of refugees so I'd expect him to get his wings clipped even further by the EU.
is this ORBAN taking revenge for the EU supporting the UKr in a way that he does not like or trying to extract something from the eU?
Its not like they had a choice, Luka's a bollóx but at the same time if he refused Putin he'd be signing his own death warrant and it would happen anyway. I'm amazed he's stayed alive as long as he has sitting between Putin and the Belarussians that want to over throw him
