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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Not to my knowledge. I think he was just referring to them as examples of modern vehicles with lots of electronics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    It will be interesting to see what replaces the mowag considering the tight time lines that have been put in the plan



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    assuming of course the replacement project comes within a decade of the proposed timeframe? I mean weren’t the two extra helicopters meant to have been this year? It’s going to be interesting considering the trade offs and costs of modern systems.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    well, it’s not like there’s any global instability…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    According the Grand Plan we are already in the requirements phase for the new armour and the acquisition phase for the extra helicopters only starts in september. The midlife upgrade of the mowags only finished a couple of months ago aswell.

    Plenty of time!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭mupper2


    I wonder if there could be some issues with not having enough people in the DOD capable of running multiple large scale acquisitions programs at once?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    If only there were other departments who run multiple large scale programs at once (not saying well mind you) that the DOD could pull some expertise from…

    I mean no question that's an issue, but given the possibility of multiple procurement projects over the next decade it might be something they might want to improve if it is a bottleneck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    And in terms of the Global Instability, everyone ready for Trump round 2? I wonder how much the defence issue is going to be massively pushed now in the EU?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    When you look at the cost for keeping the defence forces property portfoilo there is strong argument for building new modern bases on greenfield sites and hand over all the bases to the opw or other hertiage groups.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/the-military-are-spending-e355m-on-a-major-building-programme-to-decarbonise-the-defence-estate-6440210-Jul2024/



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Great work they're doing all the same....



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  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭mupper2


    I'm reminded that the Collins dictionary word of the year in 2022 was "permacrisis"..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I completely agree with this.

    The likes of Custume and McKee need to be divested and turned into beautiful and modern housing and schools and what not.

    A 21st century defence force, should be in 21st century barracks, with all the security, flexibility and connectivity that offers. Not 18th and 19th century quarters that are limiting in so many respects.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The problem with the current barracks is they were designed for an army of ocupation not a national defence force . When the new Army Design is complete it will be interesting to see if there is anything radical considering the army cant get away from ATCP it seams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    It looks like cathal brugha has survied to live another day.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0724/1461459-cabinet/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    If National Security was an issue we would ensure more than 1 naval ship was at sea on patrol.

    If national security was an issue we would not need to pull a HEMS helicopter to drop special forces to a ship at sea.

    The figures costed are complete pie in the sky as they dont even include the fact for a new base the DOD would have to pay the semi state company that owns the land they looked at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Let's be honest, neither Cathal Brugha nor McKee are integral to national security, considering their tasks could be performed elsewhere with proper provision, and the government isn't really serious about real national security, considering the massive gaping holes in our air, sea and cyber defences and human and electronic intelligence.

    But, it is important that the DF have a base or bases in the Capital, for ceremonial and ACP tasks, as well as for historical and heritage reasons.

    To my mind, the government shouldn't be spending money figuring out where in Dublin to put these 1,300 homes and the jobs and services to go with them, but where else in the Country they should go, to make a proper dent in our appalling record of sustainable regional development.

    I had no massive yearn to keep Cathal Brugha, or not, but I'm glad the Tánaiste has come down on the side of shutting down one of Eamon Ryan's bonkers flights of policy. He's an appalling minister with a total lack of strategic thinking about him, and I'm glad he's in his final months as a member of the Dáil and the government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    To be clear, I would never get rid of both in any case. I appreciate the need for a fair sized secure site within the City.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    not exactly breaking news, but bless the DOD for managing to put out another empty PR piece without actually doing anything…

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41443537.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Yeah. The defence budget goes no distance at all in increasing maritime security. Barely small change...



  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭zone 1


    yeah but irelands NEUTRAL no body would mess with us..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    To be fair, the DOD has figured out that were we are may not be a defence anymore (if it ever really was), I mean they don't intend to actually do anything about it of course, but at least they have put it in writing to cover their arse if anything goes wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    "The Department will lead on the development of a National Maritime Security Strategy".

    Sometimes I just want to go down there and shake them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I could think of other things to do with the department, but sure lets start with that. I mean its great that it seems that there's some reality breaking through, but there's still a sense of no urgency for fixing all the recognised issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Exactly. They have become highly proficient at publishing many, many glossy documents.

    But have gotten even worse at putting in place manpower, assets and increased capabilities. In all domains.

    Life is something that happens to you while you're busy making plans. - John Lennon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The USS Patrick Gallagher (DDG-127) Arleigh Burke Class (Flight IIA) guided missile destroyer. Christened yesterday at Bath Iron Works, Maine.

    Named for Lance Corporal Patrick Gallagher, USMC. Born Ballyhaunis, Mayo, 1944. KIA, Da Nang, Vietnam, 1967.

    Corporal Gallagher was a recipient of the Navy Cross and Congressional Medal of Honour for repeated acts of outstanding courage in the field, including throwing himself on a live grenade to protect others of his unit. The weapon failed to explode and he tossed it into a lake.

    Gallagher is one of the first non-Americans to receive such an honour, that of a Warship being named for him.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Thought you might like this one as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    @Manic Moran when you were in the curragh did you do a video on the mowags or RG32?



  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭mupper2


    Surely the RG32's would be on static display……

    Ah my coat, thank you.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    An interesting reflection on intelligence and national security matters by the AC Security and Intelligence Bureau.

    Its certainly a pertinent matter for both AGS and DF, but really its time for a new government agency to coordinate and develop intelligence capacity and proficiency, to link directly into NSAC and Cabinet Committee F.

    The national security strategy is taking far too long, just like every other urgent security and defence issue.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    ah but social media twats says there’s no problems and it’s all the evil arms industry scaremongering, that there’s no risk to Ireland…

    Gobshites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Thankfully, although our TikTok Taoish does seem partial to social media, he appears not to pay much heed to the bottom of its barrel.

    He shall have to put his money where his mouth is now though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    sadly, there’s plenty of voters that do as we see all to often.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    seems we had a dangerously close incident in UNFIL, with two APCs getting hit by shrapnel reportedly:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2024/08/11/six-irish-soldiers-caught-in-attack-on-village-in-southern-lebanon/



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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 kenny80


    force/https://www.politico.eu/article/ireland-defense-freeloader-ukraine-work-royal-air-force/



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Yeah...the government should be hangin its head in shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The UK Defence Journal's twitter engagement is hilariously immature. Its like Paddy Cosgrave is managing their account.

    While the topic may be valid, they really shouldn't be taken any more seriously than two quid gossip mag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I am starting to think our neighbours want to come back they write so much about us.

    https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/lack-of-irish-defence-back-door-threat-to-uk-says-report/



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I think ukdj might be trying to fill an "August slump" this particular article was out then in February with plenty of the usual comments, but for some reason they felt the need to simply republish it today? It is strange how much extra coverage they have started to give us, I mean sure its not a surprise when they have the ones up about all the international views on the state of things, but the article on the UNFIL incident for example is a bit strange.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭highpitcheric


    One sided smear job. No investigation or counter arguments. Bait.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭vswr


    UK Defence sources trying to shape policy of the new government….



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Not really given how old the original report was, seems to be more connected with their upswing in Irish coverage for whatever reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭vswr


    UK are in the process of doing the autumn budget… there is a lot being mentioned about potential military cuts… there are numerous military outlets doing cajoling to raise awareness on various topics at the moment… another huge area is the Navy new subs and frigates/destroyers…. along with Army numbers and pushing forward on the Challenger 3 and various autonomous systems …

    the above article is just one aspect of the RAF push…. lots of mentions abut the Wedgetails, Space warfare, transport gaps (no C-130 type craft) etc…. at the moment.

    edit: with the lacklustre Irish response, and the UK really concerned about the "Irish issue" (it's the American's too)… I can see something like more "overt" P-8 patrols from the American's, British, and Norwegian's as a potential option. It's pretty much in place at the moment, when required. I see a more routine and structured element happening though….

    How it is done is a different matter (do they patrol from Oceanic airspace only? Does Ireland pay towards it? etc…)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Its the UK Media at the end of the day. They have a quota to give about this country as old habits die hard.

    They dont understand the only thing that will change an irish elected rep is if it will cause them losing votes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Firstly, I hope the injured man will make a speedy and full recovery.

    But, this is very serious for a number of reasons.

    • The security protocols around DF installations
    • Misinformation around the DFs role in UN mandated peacekeeping missions, especially in the Middle East
    • Feeding a frenzy of far-=right narrative around the pillars of the State, immigration, housing etc etc - irrespective of there being no facts in the public domain about the background of the attacker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Hope the victim makes a full recovery,very disturbing attack.

    No indication of attackers motives,but far left radicals are active in Galway,graffiti is commonplace around Galway from same group.

    Btw the garrison church is outside the security perimeter of the barracks,it's not clear where attack took place.

    Post edited by kabakuyu on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Absolutely no point speculating without information.

    Could be a radical, could be a drunk or a lad deep down the K hole, could be driven by mental illness, or could be none of those things.

    There'll be a Court report soon enough and we'll know.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    It says in the indo article that solders fired warning shots to try to prevent the chaplain being stabbed anymore.

    Is there a reason they didnt just shoot the attacker?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Father Paul F Murphy has been tweeting:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0816/1465310-army-chaplain/



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