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Iran is one of the few islamic countries in the region that you could see being a democratic state in time, probably the only one to be honest.
Well it's 1000 sqkm more of Russia than Ukraine had last week!
It seems as though the Russians spent so long beating their nuclear chest that they got swallowed up in their own hubris, dating as far back as Stalingrad, that nobody would dare to encroach on their territory again. Complacency is a b*ch.
Interesting how with all the saber rattling about nuclear apocalypse over the last few months and years that this incursion we're calling it, hasn't resulted in the promised nuclear over-reaction by the Kremlin. Comforting I guess to know they aren't completely insane.
I'm really struggling to know haw to respond when you seem to have absolutely zero ability to differentiate between ordinary people and murdering scumbags dressed in military fatigues.
There also needs to be a differentiation between women and children, and men, minding their own business, protesting the war, etc. and the people building bombs and supporting it whole heartedly. Something about laying in the bed you've made. This is the same distinction made in another nearby conflict in the world, where the combatants on one side do not at all wear any military fatigues, and are still murdering scumbags, and still supported by a good chunk of their population. The difference there is the murdering scumbags in fatigues on the other side of that conflict (with broad but not total support of their civilians) who indiscriminately bomb the **** out of all civilians on the other side of the conflict, lest 1 or 2 of hundreds of them be 'terrorists.'
Now forgive me if I'm a bit slow here but are the Ukrainian incursion forces committing such atrocities, indiscriminately targeting civilians or have they essentially confined their activities to military targets, manufacturing facilities, the power grid and military adjacent infrastructure etc? I don't even know if the incursion force is uniformed, and I'd say if they were my money is on them wearing slightly used Russian uniforms if anything.
The Polish are terrifying the Russians in Kaliningrad lol
Right, enjoy your hyperbolic wormhole. I'll just click ignore and try to enjoy the rest of the discussion on this thread.
Pensioners of Kamchatka protested after they read reports of free fish being given out at different points and then it never materialised. The pensioners demand to know where their fish is.
He is a very impatient man. He has to wait until China NK , Iran have independently verified the actual situation before commenting on it. They will have to use a very good and up to date Oxford Dictionary to come up with the form of words to ‘ express their opinions’ which will have to be in favour of Russia - those Ba—_ards of Natzi UKranians!!!!!!!!
he sounds like a chip off the old block - the Trump block
Most military analysts seem to be saying that this incursion into Kursk can only be temporary. The Russians will do whatever it takes to kick them out.
But the Russians also were going all-out to capture Bakhmut, Avdivvka or Kharkiv.
With Ukraine now having better air cover, as well as the ability to strike behind enemy lines, surely it won't be easy to simply expel the Ukrainians? Especially if they have time to dig in. Russia might also be more hesitant to just bomb the place to the ground.
Also - doesn't Russia have to now focus more resources than before in protecting its own borders ? It was complacent up to now. They don't want to lose another 1000 POWs on a similar type raid.
If Trump gets in it will be option 4. Remove all US aid for Ukraine.
Putin is waiting to see if Trump gets into power, if he does, he'll most likely do a deal to extricate Russia from the war. It will be an absurd deal which Ukraine and Europe will reject, in response Trump will cut support for Ukraine - then blame Ukraine for "not wanting peace".
Which is why the current move by Ukraine to take Russian land is smart (and if they can hold a portion of it)
I dont think this is the main UAF force but rather a recon group
Actually it doesn't (nice try, though...). BBC says Ukraine claims to control 1000km, but today said the ISW thinks that's an exaggeration and reality is closer to 800km.
As far as I can see, the only options available to Trump or any other US President are:
I don't think any of those options can end the war, at least not with any certainty.
No. 1 might end the war sooner, 2 might prolong it.
In any case, no way will the Ukrainians or Europeans support a Ukrainian surrender. Russia are already showing signs of being very stretched for resources.
”Ordinary Russians” not wearing fatigues
Ordinary Russians in Kursk in 2022
Ordinary Russians with cars that say “to Berlin, for German women”
When UAF makes it as far as mount Doom let me know… I hear that the plains of Gorgoroth are difficult to cross 😉
Most of Russia is a wasteland and my post was aimed at poster who dismisses anyone who doesn’t post BBC articles who then proceeded to do just that himself
There is no meme, unless you've gotten lost down some wormhole on the internet, or are completely missing the point. I genuinely doubt you have any real world experience of any of the stuff you're lecturing everyone on.
I'm not going to go down the wormhole with you on this as its just a distraction from the actual atrocities that the Russians are committing in Ukraine. It's a load of nonsense of a non-debate.
So in other words 9 month's of all out Russian attacks have gained next to nothing.
Considering the size of both Rusisa/Ukraine that's next to nothing. For comparison, the area of such a tiny place as our own country is over 70,000 square km
BBC says 1000km^2
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2lmr29ygjo.amp
More on this.
The two men who attacked the old man were 62-year-old lawyer and Moscow realtor Alexander Golovnin and his 30-year-old son, unemployed Mikhail Golovnin.
In a word: no.
Initial reports suggest that the vast majority of the population has been relocated to the Motherland, where they'll continue to drink the Kremlin Koolaid. If or when they return to the region, they'll have a Kremlin-approved opinion about the state of the place - if it's been turned into an apocalyptic hellscape by the Russian airforce, that'll be the fault of the Ukrainian nazis; if things are still much as they were when the refugees fled, that'll be because the Russian Army valiantly chased out the hohol horde before they could ransack the place.
The odd few that remain will be living in occupied territory according to the rules of an occupying force, so they're unlikely to experience the best of what a westward-looking Ukrainian lifestyle would bring them. The most we (or they) could hope for would be for the Ukranians to facilitate the election of Ukrainian/EU-friendly local governers who might then start talking about wanting some autonomy from the new Soviet Union … but how's that going for Belarus or Georgia?
Zelensky or at least some of his military commanders seem to have been reading up on some Sun Tzu lately….
And that's how I found them to be too when i was there. Lovely people trapped in a religious hell hole, where the Ayatollah and his Mullahs wield absolute power through pure savagery, behind a cloak of religion.
ISW saying real figure is closer to 800km than 1000km, but still very impressive. Hope they can hold it for as long as needed.
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Another post to park here.
Those are clearly a minority of extraordinary Russians
The majority of “ordinary Russians” are too busy and too happy committing crimes in meantime, as Putin can’t single handedly be everywhere all at once in person to himself pull the triggers or connect torture equipment to genitals in person or push people out of windows or assault own soldiers or rape prisoners
The meme that most Russians are passive observers three years into this war is by now bordering on a joke
Trump's latest comment in the war:
“Russia defeated Germany with us, and they defeated Napoleon. You know, they’ve been around a long time. They’re a big fighting force, and it’s very unfair … We’re in a very bad position. And I’m not going to blame, exclusively, but I can tell you, I could have stopped that."
Fingers crossed for Harris....
What do you have to say about the thousands of Russians in prison or on trial who actually did protest the war? The lawyers who defend those people in court? Are they guilty too in your eyes? Lack of differentiation is always borne of hatred and reveals a lot about the person propagating it
