I read the following article this morning. "From August, bus gates will be in operation on Bachelors Walk and Aston Quay in order to restrict drivers from travelling through the city centre."
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/major-changes-to-dublin-city-traffic-to-come-into-effect-in-august-1610937.html
The quays have always been a pain in the a$$ to use, no matter the time of day… So, how will this effect people?
It looks like there's bollards at the front of that hatching? If that is the case, I assume that outside the 7-7 hours, cars are expected to use the bus lane to ontinue straight into Aston Quay. Still wildly inadequate, mind you!
A car diversion onto jervis St 24hrs would be a far simpler set up
Yeah, it's going to be interesting alright. The fact that it's only from 7am to 7pm will lead to a bit of wriggle room too.
Fun times.
It's overly complex. So much effort just to keep car dominance. That right turn from Burgh Quay to ocs is currently abused by queue skippers who fly down the right turning lane and merge left mid junction, the right turn lane is hardly used at all by people actually turning right
Just looking at the Burgh quay proposal, they're relying on a bit of road hatching to prevent motorists in the right turning lane not to travel straight. That is most certainly going to be abused! I think there are bollards proposed as part of the cycling scheme so these should be installed straight away to prevent that happening.
The signage game isjust bonkers in Dublin. There's still poles on south William street that just say M50 and an arrow.
If you're relying on that to get to the m50 from SWS you're screwed..
Our signage system just feels completely inadequate here, I tend to think it should be instead indicating where cars can go, because that's much easier to figure out when you're driving along. And the signage should be much further in advance of the actual bus gate.
As-is I foresee a significant amount of people just ignoring these new bus gates most of the time, and being able to successfully claim ignorance.
The right hand turn from Burgh Quay to O'Connell Bridge will really need to be looked at carefully after implementation. Westmoreland St to OCS North is a pain as it is
It's funny, a couple of hours after I asked the question Irish Cycle posted the below!
https://irishcycle.com/2024/08/09/bus-gates-on-dublin-quays-are-set-to-start-with-minimal-changes/
Minimal changes, but there is a new traffic island on Bachelors Walk.
It seems to be different companies which leads me to think it's incompetence rather than corruption but you never know
Always curious about who the individuals are that get these sign contracts from councils.
There are some works on O'Connell Bridge, but I don't know if they're related to these restrictions
Wait till she hears about the red Luas line.
If there's anything DCC likes doing, it's vandalising the public space with more sign posts
I am pessimistic that the Dublin City Council chief is thinking of these as short term measures. Maybe if Arnotts shut their parking entrance on O'Connell St it could change, but they'd still want access somehow on Abbey St.
In any case, with the current plan, there doesn't seem to be much point in adding anything other than some signage?
Nothing's been scrapped. They've just implemented what they could at the moment with the hope that the full measures can go ahead in the future.
Wasn't that plan scrapped and we've ended up with this watered down plan? There's not going to be any extra pedestrian space on Bachelor's Walk now.
Well the below is the ultimate plan which obviously can't be implemented with general traffic still being able to access O'Connell Street. There currently are 2 general traffic lanes, 1 bus lane and 1 cycle lane. It may make sense to remove one of the general traffic lanes and provide more pedestrian space until they're able to get more space for the two-way cycle lane.
Would they need to? I'd say signage like College Green, but if the restrictions are only in place from 7am to 7pm, then probably unlikely.
I see that they've added another sign to tell people to go to www.dublincity.ie for more information. I guess there's too much to explain on a digital display?
Also does anyone know if there will be any physical works to the quays as part of these changes? Will they be adding new bollards, road markings, kerbing, traffic signals etc.?
You buy her an umbrella or a rain-proof coat like a good boy, then tell her to stop being so lazy and take the Luas.
You've alot more faith in the competency of the project teams than I, but I do hope you're right
It's an early "warning". Some people who see that might google and see what the changes are for themselves. They no doubt will have more detailed information closer to the time.
I would have thought they'd wait until after the bank holiday weekend to inform people.
Loads of signs along the quays this morning saying traffic changes. Doesn't say what, where or how. They really need to give a bit more information than that...
Admit it, you don't know how to read. They said an artery, not an arterial route.
Admit it, you don't know what an arterial route is, do you?
Harcourt street, Stephens green and Grafton Street used to be an artery for cars. As was talbot St, Henry St, Mary St and Capel St
They're still going to be arterial routes for the majority of people though. The majority of people that will come into the city centre use buses.
Edit: to make it more clearer
You think that's bad, I had to walk from Busaras to Temple bar once…using nothing else but my feet!!!
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