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Do you really think the russian military are bothering to do autopsies on dead Ukrainians when they don't even bother to collect their own dead for months? My partner worked for years in a hospital morgue I know all about their methodologies. It's illegal to interfere with a fallen body, ffs I shouldn't even have to say that.
You are not thinking like a Russian
Returning a body without organs is exactly what one would do if
On recent podcast they were discussing how 90% of Ukrainian POWs were systematically tortured and how stupid the practice is as the tortured would say anything to make it stop
Is that done to satisfy innate sadism in the "interrogators" but also with the intention to demoralize the next to be questioned?
Maybe they are proud of what they are doing as their lives are completely empty otherwise?
Scum bully lackeys looking for easy targets to please their gangster masters Hope their boss back at local HQ gives em a kicking for being so thick as an 87 year auld fella is not much use in the meat grinder FFS
Perhaps the bullies boss can even send these two lackeys to the frontline it’s the best place for them
Respect to auld lad for telling the truth I’m hoping more Russians start to slowly see sense
Like the golden opportunity the West had at the start of the invasion but decided against it.
Too little too late.
What a missed opportunity to finish this war off once and for all on so many levels.
All because we are meant to be afraid of what Putin might do.
Just give Ukraine what it needs and deserves ffs….
Do you mean me "his claims".
The speculation is that russians are keeping POWs alive and farming them for body parts. Jesus Christ I hope this isn't true.
It doesn't matter if we believe it or not but what is true is that bodies are being sent back through exchanges missing organs that were surgically removed. This is a fact. There is no good reason for the russians to do autopsies on Ukraine's fallen ever unless there was a huge outbreak of cholera or something which there isn't. They don't have the skilled people to be willy nilly opening up corpses for the fun of it either they are too busy sewing up the living.
If you choose to reject the claims of the hundreds of people involved in these exchanges and the horror they went through I suggest you join the flat earth society or some other conspiracy group.
Don't bother asking for reference links this is common knowledge and I'm not your gopher.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule113#:~:text=international%20armed%20conflicts-,Rule%20113.,of%20dead%20bodies%20is%20prohibited.
You're wrong.
I am trying to think like a Russian.
If I was Vlad, I would not want atrocities brought to my door step. Atrocities lead to outrage in the West, and a demand for more action against Russia.
Vlad has no regard for human life, at the same time, he is a very rational person. He does not want more Western intervention.
What Vlad is backing on is that the West grows bored with the whole Ukrainian thing, and then gets worried about something else.
His strategy seems to be working.
Did you see the monthly American arms package announced today?
$125m is a few days worth of ammunition. It's much less than packages announced last year.
I haven’t been following this since. How is it going?
Kursk says hello Ivan.
You are the person who just called another person who argued in good faith a "dickhead".
You have miraculously not been thread banned.
I would have thought that calling @Say my name a "dickhead" was grounds for a thread ban.
You are on my ignore list. Goodbye.
That's mighty.
ya might want to read that again for your chum. Begging for my banning is weak lad very cowardly.
any chance you respond to my comment #3676 before you go into hiding? This thread is for talking about the russian Ukrainian war not running away when you get caught out.
#3676
You called him a dickhead, then you edited your post!
no i didn't actually. I don't take kindly to accusations either. Are you going to respond to my comment about the russian organ harvesting or just act like a MAGA twerp?
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You're lying though.
This is what you originally wrote.
Vlad's strategy seems to be working?
What strategy?
His strategy is a leaf out of Hitlers playbook.
Invade Ukraine, sweep over it in a few weeks.
Plan B. Plan….B?
If Vlad's grand strategy is the west growing bored, he's every bit as deluded as Hitler.
Another incursion
Ukrainians are still pushing along the border.
Where have you been for last three years, Russians committed atrocities from day one and continue to do it every day, just yesterday they shelled a supermarket killing a dozen+ people ffs
Either Putin doesn’t care or he wants them as they spread fear or his control of barbaric Russians is not strong enough
What I am starting to suspect is that those who continually defend Russians here don’t want the atrocities (as it makes it that much harder for them to defend this invasion) and try to perform mental gymnastics to deny them but get shat upon from a great height of Russian cruelty daily
Edit: news that wasn’t discussed here of yet another Russian atrocity, what value is it Putin for Russians to have done this?
Most positive developments for Ukraine on the battlefield in over a year and yet the rest of us looking for updates have to read the above drivel from resident keyboard warrior turned medical expert. Thanks for that.
So Putin remains a master strategist and his plan is working. Is that really the best that they came up with after 4 days. Jeez I'm disappointed.
@Francie Barrett how do statements like this help Putin?
Or deliberately shelling a supermarket of no military value yesterday?
Tell us more of Putin’s plan as it seems you had a good peek at them
I was in Berlin in February last year and I seem to recall a destroyed T90 tank placed in front of the russian embassy, which is walking distance from the Reichstag. So Medvedev isn't far off; just not in the way he intended.
”Ordinary Russians”
Big list
Summary-
Russia had 29 pieces of artillery damaged or destroyed. 1 Grad and 2 2S3 were destroyed. The 2S3 were probably old, but are newly documented. 22 guns had their barrels destroyed or breach damaged. The breach damage may destroy the gun, you'd need follow up footage to understand how much damage the gun suffered, though.
3 tanks were abandoned and 1 damaged.
8 IFVs were destroyed, and 1 damaged
Russia had 14 trucks destroyed and 16 more damaged. They also lost 8 more transport vehicles.
Russia had 116 assets damaged, abandoned, or destroyed
Ukraine had 27 assets damaged, abandoned, or destroyed
1 boat sunk
1 tank destroyed and 1 more damaged
1 ifv damaged
1 apc abandoned, 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
1 mrap destroyed
and they lost 6 transport vehicles.
Some sources are saying they lost another ka-52 this morning.
@Francie Barrett and @I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct if you have a personal spat with each other take it elsewhere. Don't derail the thread by arguing with each other. It's tedious for posters who are interested in discussing the topic to have to scroll through.
And things are going boom in Black Sea too
The excursions into Russia are both bad and good for Ukraine. On one hand it's a massive distraction for Russia and will mean they will have to reinforce the border once more. However, it also shows that Ukraine needs a distraction to try and stop the slow and attrional loss of land on the front.
It will be more interesting to see if Ukraine decides to make any tangible changes at the front because, at the moment, I can only see one side being able to sustain this in the long term and this looks like they will be qt it for quite some time yet.
Belarus at it again
Probably hoping Ukraine moves troops North. Doubt Ukraine will fall for it.
