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Ukrainians are still pushing along the border.
Another incursion
Vlad's strategy seems to be working?
What strategy?
His strategy is a leaf out of Hitlers playbook.
Invade Ukraine, sweep over it in a few weeks.
Plan B. Plan….B?
If Vlad's grand strategy is the west growing bored, he's every bit as deluded as Hitler.
You're lying though.
This is what you originally wrote.
no i didn't actually. I don't take kindly to accusations either. Are you going to respond to my comment about the russian organ harvesting or just act like a MAGA twerp?
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You called him a dickhead, then you edited your post!
ya might want to read that again for your chum. Begging for my banning is weak lad very cowardly.
any chance you respond to my comment #3676 before you go into hiding? This thread is for talking about the russian Ukrainian war not running away when you get caught out.
#3676
That's mighty.
You are the person who just called another person who argued in good faith a "dickhead".
You have miraculously not been thread banned.
I would have thought that calling @Say my name a "dickhead" was grounds for a thread ban.
You are on my ignore list. Goodbye.
Kursk says hello Ivan.
I haven’t been following this since. How is it going?
You're wrong.
I am trying to think like a Russian.
If I was Vlad, I would not want atrocities brought to my door step. Atrocities lead to outrage in the West, and a demand for more action against Russia.
Vlad has no regard for human life, at the same time, he is a very rational person. He does not want more Western intervention.
What Vlad is backing on is that the West grows bored with the whole Ukrainian thing, and then gets worried about something else.
His strategy seems to be working.
Did you see the monthly American arms package announced today?
$125m is a few days worth of ammunition. It's much less than packages announced last year.
Do you mean me "his claims".
The speculation is that russians are keeping POWs alive and farming them for body parts. Jesus Christ I hope this isn't true.
It doesn't matter if we believe it or not but what is true is that bodies are being sent back through exchanges missing organs that were surgically removed. This is a fact. There is no good reason for the russians to do autopsies on Ukraine's fallen ever unless there was a huge outbreak of cholera or something which there isn't. They don't have the skilled people to be willy nilly opening up corpses for the fun of it either they are too busy sewing up the living.
If you choose to reject the claims of the hundreds of people involved in these exchanges and the horror they went through I suggest you join the flat earth society or some other conspiracy group.
Don't bother asking for reference links this is common knowledge and I'm not your gopher.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule113#:~:text=international%20armed%20conflicts-,Rule%20113.,of%20dead%20bodies%20is%20prohibited.
Like the golden opportunity the West had at the start of the invasion but decided against it.
Too little too late.
What a missed opportunity to finish this war off once and for all on so many levels.
All because we are meant to be afraid of what Putin might do.
Just give Ukraine what it needs and deserves ffs….
Scum bully lackeys looking for easy targets to please their gangster masters Hope their boss back at local HQ gives em a kicking for being so thick as an 87 year auld fella is not much use in the meat grinder FFS
Perhaps the bullies boss can even send these two lackeys to the frontline it’s the best place for them
Respect to auld lad for telling the truth I’m hoping more Russians start to slowly see sense
Is that done to satisfy innate sadism in the "interrogators" but also with the intention to demoralize the next to be questioned?
Maybe they are proud of what they are doing as their lives are completely empty otherwise?
You are not thinking like a Russian
Returning a body without organs is exactly what one would do if
On recent podcast they were discussing how 90% of Ukrainian POWs were systematically tortured and how stupid the practice is as the tortured would say anything to make it stop
Do you really think the russian military are bothering to do autopsies on dead Ukrainians when they don't even bother to collect their own dead for months? My partner worked for years in a hospital morgue I know all about their methodologies. It's illegal to interfere with a fallen body, ffs I shouldn't even have to say that.
His claims are just ridiculous.
Once a person dies, the timeframe for usefulness of their organs is measured in minutes, not the days it would take to get them off the front line and to an area to be harvested. The transfer of corpses between Ukrainians and Russians is measured in weeks, not days. If a body is not embalmed, it's going to be a putrefied mess by the time it's returned.
Second point. If you we were somehow harvesting organs from Ukrainians, you're hardly going to return the body and provide evidence of your crime 🤡
Wow, just when you think they can't stoop much lower
There's a golden opportunity here for the Ukrainians to wreak havoc on Russian airframes. The Russians are flying low level sorties all over Kursk searching for Ukrainian battalions with not alot of care being taken as to the safety of it. They probably assume because they're over former home soil that it's safe.
The Ukrainians should pack the place with Manpads and place some AA on the Ukrainian side of the border. Anything flying low gets taken out by infantry, everything the flies higher meets an SAM. They could take another 10 airframes out of service and really give the locals something to distribute on their phones.
I'm not. But what do you think is done in battlefield situations where there's no embalmer and no freezers? Organs are taken out, body cavity washed out, maybe the organs are put back in in a plastic bag in the stomach cavity and sewn back up. What do you think happens here in a post mortem?
Absolute bollox preserving bodies my arsehole. Taking body parts from the living or dead is in contravention of everything sacred for fcuk sake. Are you seriously trying to rationalize organ harvesting on behalf of the russians just because the chinese do it?
You don't have to live up to your handle name.
POWs were correct. There are some returned alive pows claim they had organs removed.
In china, russia's friend it's a practice to remove organs from prisoners. And they would be still alive and heart beating. If they are alive it's a greater chance of the organ transplant being a success. Ethics with Russia and China would not be considered as they just don't care as they consider nobody's going to stop them.
For dead bodies being returned without organs. It doesn't necessarily mean the organs were harvested. It could be just part of the way of preserving the bodies.
Well let’s hope the diesel for backup generators wasn’t stolen by corrupt officials or western Russia will have a healthy green glow for few millennia
what a legend 😂
That is sickening,they really are a broken society.
Rotten to the core.
Ordinary Russian Citizens,or Orcs for short.
Sorry I meant bodies not POWs. Been a long day.
edit: I think you know what I meant anyway
double edit: search for it yourself we all know about it I'm not your gopher. "dickhead" is a word to describe pedantic clowns that love to distort the truth when they haven't an ounce of decency or raring in them. It has many uses but this one is mine. I'm aware of the satirical use of my handle by the way and the meaning of Fightclub.
Hey Francie why don't you answer my comments? Why are you crying dickhead? Does Dickhead trigger you? If it does I'll stop using it as soon as you just answer me like a civilized person.
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Unless they had drones or weapons specifically target the flight line of the air base, I doubt it. Impressive as the explosions are, the ammunition depot is quite a bit away from the actual airfield. Even the Russians aren’t dumb enough to build an ammo dump right next to an active air base.
Ukrainians were returned alive with some organs harvested while in carceration was how I read into it.
Edit: and now you are not wondering what could happen to disappeared adults and children in Ukraine..
Double edit: you have to be alive and the blood pumping to harvest organs.
I looked around on several sites to make sure the story was the same and he wasn't a sex offender or something but no it seems it's legit. I can't think of any society that would openly attack a person that old it's unhuman. Makes you wonder if the Ukrainian POWs returned without organs were still alive when they were taken, it's been bothering me since I read that a few weeks ago.
