I read the following article this morning. "From August, bus gates will be in operation on Bachelors Walk and Aston Quay in order to restrict drivers from travelling through the city centre."
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/major-changes-to-dublin-city-traffic-to-come-into-effect-in-august-1610937.html
The quays have always been a pain in the a$$ to use, no matter the time of day… So, how will this effect people?
Lads, I know the scenarios are a bit out there but cut this out. — moderator
Also, cut out the zealous nonsense.
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I'm really not.
These are the sort of absolutely legitimate questions that will need to be answered to monitor the effectiveness of the plan, or to head off legal opposition.
How does a private car navigate from Burgh Quay to Wellington Quay? Leave aside the wheres and why fors.
The City Council says it can be done by a diverting left or right at O'Connell Bridge / D'Olier Street. I want to know how.
You can't. Just like you can't drive up Henry Street, Grafton Street or into College Green and the world hasn't imploded from preventing car access.
Parliament St and College Green/Dame St are all going to be made car free at some stage. Not like this is just some isolated moved too
Great, isn’t it? 😎
I'm flying out to Spain next week. Thanks to the greens I won't be able to drive my car right up to the departure gate. They're such ******.
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Anyone who equates Grafton Street, or Henry Street, with the arterial routes that are the North and South Quays, is an idiot.
You think that's bad, I had to walk from Busaras to Temple bar once…using nothing else but my feet!!!
They're still going to be arterial routes for the majority of people though. The majority of people that will come into the city centre use buses.
Edit: to make it more clearer
Harcourt street, Stephens green and Grafton Street used to be an artery for cars. As was talbot St, Henry St, Mary St and Capel St
Admit it, you don't know what an arterial route is, do you?
Admit it, you don't know how to read. They said an artery, not an arterial route.
Loads of signs along the quays this morning saying traffic changes. Doesn't say what, where or how. They really need to give a bit more information than that...
I would have thought they'd wait until after the bank holiday weekend to inform people.
It's an early "warning". Some people who see that might google and see what the changes are for themselves. They no doubt will have more detailed information closer to the time.
You've alot more faith in the competency of the project teams than I, but I do hope you're right
You buy her an umbrella or a rain-proof coat like a good boy, then tell her to stop being so lazy and take the Luas.
I see that they've added another sign to tell people to go to www.dublincity.ie for more information. I guess there's too much to explain on a digital display?
Also does anyone know if there will be any physical works to the quays as part of these changes? Will they be adding new bollards, road markings, kerbing, traffic signals etc.?
Would they need to? I'd say signage like College Green, but if the restrictions are only in place from 7am to 7pm, then probably unlikely.
Well the below is the ultimate plan which obviously can't be implemented with general traffic still being able to access O'Connell Street. There currently are 2 general traffic lanes, 1 bus lane and 1 cycle lane. It may make sense to remove one of the general traffic lanes and provide more pedestrian space until they're able to get more space for the two-way cycle lane.
Wasn't that plan scrapped and we've ended up with this watered down plan? There's not going to be any extra pedestrian space on Bachelor's Walk now.
Nothing's been scrapped. They've just implemented what they could at the moment with the hope that the full measures can go ahead in the future.
I am pessimistic that the Dublin City Council chief is thinking of these as short term measures. Maybe if Arnotts shut their parking entrance on O'Connell St it could change, but they'd still want access somehow on Abbey St.
In any case, with the current plan, there doesn't seem to be much point in adding anything other than some signage?
If there's anything DCC likes doing, it's vandalising the public space with more sign posts
Wait till she hears about the red Luas line.
There are some works on O'Connell Bridge, but I don't know if they're related to these restrictions
Always curious about who the individuals are that get these sign contracts from councils.
It seems to be different companies which leads me to think it's incompetence rather than corruption but you never know
It's funny, a couple of hours after I asked the question Irish Cycle posted the below!
https://irishcycle.com/2024/08/09/bus-gates-on-dublin-quays-are-set-to-start-with-minimal-changes/
Minimal changes, but there is a new traffic island on Bachelors Walk.