No Contractual obligations with munster could stop him from playing or being involved with national team.
Didn't kleyn have surgery after that injury so mightnt be back from that
Only slightly different from the team who played Portugal last month, says it all. But never know with Australia. They did pick up 3 injuries last week though.
Could still be because of this. Not that im sure he would be picked if he was fit.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/jean-kleyns-season-ending-injury-worse-than-thought/
Is Jean Kleyn available for selection and if not, is it because of the injury he had towards the end of last season, contractual obligations with Munster or both?
I'm a big fan of Morne van den Berg at 9. Think he could emerge as a Springbok 9 in time (even though Grant Williams has looked really good of late too).
That really is saying to Australia that SA just don't rate them at all.
6/7 of that starting team wouldn't be within a mile of the squad if they were playing Ireland, France or NZ.
Lots of changes to SA starting team to face Australia again this weekend. Not sure why both Libbok and Pollard are on the bench though.
Springbok team:
15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Lukhanyo Am, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, 9 Morne van den Berg, 8 Elrigh Louw, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Jan-Hendrik Wessels
Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Eben Etzebeth, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Grant Williams, 22 Manie Libbok, 23 Handre Pollard
Extremely poor on the part of the coaches of the team if they indeed saw/knew the kid had taken a knock.
Nothing , absolutely nothing is worth taking any kind of risk with a players health.
I'd be making a phone call to the Munster branch about the incident, just not acceptable.
That is extremely poor and I’d be very upset as a parent if I heard of that happening in any club my kids were involved with.
Regarding concussion, I'm a teacher and I'd a 17 year old in front of me one Monday morning acting very oddly. On inquiry, he told me he'd had a bang to the head in a match the day before. I asked if he'd been checked out by a doctor, he hadn't and had played on despite the coach knowing. I spoke to year head who rang home. He was taken to hospital where concussion was confirmed. He told me later, he has no recollection of anything that was covered in any class for about a fortnight after. This is a rugby club in Cork.
ETA, this was in Spring 2022.
This pos was seig heiling at the Belfast race riot a couple of weeks ago. Full Ulster kit on him. Jaysus.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/boxes-of-religious-pamphlets-found-in-loyalists-home-aimed-at-stirring-up-hatred/a204800212.html
And Snyman pulled put of what should have been his first ever meaningful international start 🙄
Is that the thing with the breakdancing, skateboarding for teenage girls and 3 v 3 basketball?
Hope to anyone that thinks England have improved dramatically after the summer will be given a reality check after today.
We're too busy focusing on the Olympics. Rugby has taken a backseat 😁
Argentina beat NZ in NZ...
A huge result....the lack of interest on boards is telling.
The change in red card rules around head contact is all to do with player welfare. The real question should be whether 20 minute red cards has a negative impact on player welfare. If it doesn't, then I have no problem with it.
Lovely start by Argentina shame they couldn't finish off the score
Australia looked lost out there. Joe is starting at a very low base compared to any of his previous jobs, it's a big ask. SA continue to improve their wide game, Kriel has become a fantastic player.
Australia getting a spanking fromSA in Brisbane.
0-33 68 mins gone
Probably the same as currently happens, if they can’t bring on a prop it goes to uncontested scrums and another man goes off.
I wonder what will happen if a prop is red carded who has replaced an injured team mate.
The increase in red cards for high tackles has been a pretty big change for NZ. Sonny Bill Williams's red against the Lions in 2017 was the first red card for 50 years for NZ if I'm not mistaken. But they've had a relative glut of them since then. It has to have had an impact on their ability to keep their win % up.
That's my experience. I played uni rugby in England and it was all player run. Coaching, organising matches and travel. They had no procedures or facilities for injury. Just get yersel to the hospital if you want. Nobody was going to check. There just weren't resources.
That was 10 years ago. I hope it's improved since then.
And any game that has an appointed ref from any of the 4 provincial associations/society has to fill in form for any player removed from their games who were suspected of getting a concussion.
front row replacements are opened back up on a red card, the very same way they are opened up with a yellow card under current laws. There is no great new alteration to the status quo here.
if anything, it will rid us of the crazy spectacle of uncontested scrums causing a team to lose an EXTRA player.
This is the worst part of the rule. Bringing on someone who doesn't play the position of the guy who has gone off will result in rearranging the team on the fly and could be equally damaging to the spectacle of the game. The logic behind it is nonsense.
If a prop gets a 20 minute red and your front row subs are on, do you get to bring back on someone who as already been subbed off? Or is it uncontested scrums and you can bring on whoever is unused on the bench?
It's an accidental head-clash the same way it's an accident when you crash into someone after 5 pints because for some reason that's the legal limit and there's no public transport.
On the scrum point - after a free kick the referee is supposed to escalate to penalty for repeat infringments.
The perfect example of this for me is Ewels red card against Ireland in 2022. That will be used as an example of an accidental head clash and will be a 20 minute red card. England went into every tackle in the first two minutes high with a dominant hit. They knew exactly what they were doing.
In fairness to World Rugby the 20-minute red card is something that was pushed especially by New Zealand and SANZAR. New Zealand used it in Super Rugby in 2020 already to not impact the "integrity" of the match. Which is all rubbish, you either believe in player safety or you don't. We already see players are not tackling lower and that is why you see head on head contact, even with the threat of a red card. But reducing the sanction once again will not impact trying to change behaviour of players in tackling lower. It is a trial and we will see if the other nations actually go for it as well. I don't think the threat of lawsuits have hit the Southern Hemisphere yet so they are still a little blaisé about head injuries. I think all of the top people and commentators say the right thing on record but off the record they are probably thinking and saying the game has gone soft.
As for the other changes, what is to stop a team that is being destroyed in the scrum from just not getting ready for it? Your choice seems to be a penalty if you scrum or free kick if you don't, that does not seem right. Can the referee give a penalty instead? The problem at the moment that a strong scrum being an automatic penalty is too much in favour on the one side but this seems to be a way to mitigate that.
