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Bullcrap! I happen to know people who worked in Donbass when Putin sent Igor Strelkin /Girkin in with his untagged Russian military with orders to attack ethnic Russians and start the war. Putin manufactured the separatist movement, up to that time, there was not any separatist Russia /Ukrainian divide. They got on fine with each other. And now, this minute, same thing in Finland…very same Putin SOP, you have the Russian speaking extremely small minority protesting and demanding that Finland re open the border to facilitate Russian speakers access to Russia. They have lodged an official complaint with the EU, Putin did the same thing in Georgia, he even gave out Russian Passports to jack up the Nrs of "Russians" living in the region or outside it, so he could justify attacking Georgia to "Protect " the ethnic Russians. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is as evil a bastard as ever walked the face of this earth. When he dies, you will see a lot of current trouble spots worldwide becoming peaceful.
One Su-30SM fighter aircraft was destroyed and another was hit by shrapnel in the attack on Saki airfield, Crimea two days ago. Seems any aircraft have now been taken away from the airport.
You're not sure which government is worse? Pretty simple really, it's the ones who invaded Ukraine and is happily committing genocide. I hope you enjoyed playing up another wall of propaganda though.
Your views seem to be very different from more widely accepted facts I have read on what has happened in Ukraine in recent history. Do you have any sources you could share to help me understand your very putin friendly view of the genocidal war of conquest and terrorism he has inflicted on the people of Ukraine?
There is no Ukrainian "Regime"🙄
I didn't think the Tuareg were known for taking prisoners.
My view is that Ukraine sided with the USA following the 2014 coup/ revolution and armed with US weapons despite Obama's warnings and that was not a smart move. Like Ireland they had a problem with ultra nationalism and it seems according to OSCE reports they kicked things off in Donbas and then the Russian's responded.
As Obama said, if you arm them they'll think they can beat the Russian's.
It hasn't worked out for Ukraine and it appears hundreds of thousands have died. I don't know who is worse the Ukraine regime or the Russian one. As I have said, i think they should have a ceasefire. I see zero chance of victory for Ukraine without going nuclear.
I find westerns leaders incapable of diplomacy and feel very sorry for ordinary people in Ukraine. I had a Ukranian neighbour who was nice and assume most Ukrainians are nice too.
Hopefully I've expressed my views in a palatable and correct manner.
"Woke" is just a brainless buzzword used by people who can't spell "enlightened", "educated" and "empathetic".
Bingo
That is a lot of dead Vatniks.
They were rapists, murderers and terrorists and they can now no longer damage or harm innocent people again.
Polish not mincing their words
I somehow doubt the Russian % is that high.
https://kyivindependent.com/over-75-of-injured-soldiers-return-to-service-after-rehabilitation/
Not going well for the Russians today
In today's Nazi land news.
The main thing for the morning: —The police have set the task of “brightening” the Moscow region so that it is not “blackened” by foreigners —Officials have called for more births due to a shortage of electricians. Otherwise the migrants have disappeared somewhere —A participant in the “special operation” was tortured by the police
Tuareg fighters have sent a message to Ukraine:
Message to Ukrainian brothers Dear Ukrainian brothers, We, the armed forces of the CSP-DPA, want to express our solidarity with your fight against Russian criminals. We have captured a significant number of Wagner's mercenaries and would like to hand over these captives to you as a sign of support and solidarity. This gesture is intended to help you in your fight for justice and freedom. We hope that this will contribute to the strengthening of our ties and our joint victory. With all our support, the CSP-DPA Armed Forces
https://x.com/abdalaag2022/status/1817352691363856469
Only way the organisers would be thinking of russia in my opinion is the terrorist threat they might try to inflict on the general public in Paris. The role of putin's terrorists in arson attacks on the French rail network immediately before the opening ceremony is still being investigated as far as I know.
Fascinating how the people doing most crying about everybody else being so easily offended these days are getting offended and losing what little remains of their (woke mind virus infected?) braincells of on pointless manufactured outrage
But now I digress from the topic, so back on the rail
I think this is more your own rantings factoring in. The Olympics is still gonna be one of the most viewed events globally this year. Meanwhile the fact Russia ran a BRICS games says a lot...
I doubt Russia crossed the minds of anyone who organised the opening ceremony.
whats with the "you" , strange way are making points. I was just making the point that if the idea was to make Russia "feel bad" the French have a strange way of going about it. Most of the globe isnt woke , France is having some issues in Africa so in a "hearts and minds " game it was a an own goal. will it matter in a month? no , its one of those who cares
Without soviet population or resources or ideology may I add
Interesting article written by seven EU Finance Ministers on how Russia is financing the war. https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/24/russia-economic-growth-western-sanctions-vladimir-putin-moscow
I’m summary, they have depleted their National Wealth Fund by half. Exports have dropped a third. They have shifted to a war industry who’s factories are at maximum capacity. They are expropriating private industries to fund public spending. They are struggling with lack of labour and sanctions. They are trying to fight inflation with very high interest rates. Basically they have shifted to a Soviet style economy which we know doesn’t work long term.
Sure, they'll start their own Olympics. With black jack! And hookers! And for all the conservative Christians whining about the opening ceremony, well you guys like tradition, well I gots your tradition right here:
https://x.com/sebastienroblin/status/1817455519801458844
Some of the highest combat losses seen in the region. France lost around 40 KIA in Mali over 8 years (2014-2022). It was a big deal when U.S. lost 4 in Niger in 2017. Wagner just had 80 killed and more than 15 captured. Included in the KIA was the owner of the Grey Zone Wagner Telegram channel.
Slightly longer detailed account from a Wagner Commander as well https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1817445185556504620
The Tuaregs had been tracking them with Starlink for quite some time as noted in this timeline of the attacks
https://x.com/SaladinAlDronni/status/1817198105357320557
They even managed to destroy an MI-24/35 helicopter. Not that many Combat aircraft in Mali [operated by FAMa or Wagner]. So a very important loss in the context of the Mali conflict
https://x.com/tom_bullock_/status/1817303951764496878
Whats the smallest organ in Trumps body ? Putlers d1ck 🤣🤦♂️ I'll get my coat
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mali-rebels-say-they-killed-injured-dozens-soldiers-wagner-mercenaries-fighting-2024-07-27/
Noose is tightening on Wagner in Africa. Video of this can be found on the r/LoveForUkraine.
lol oh we love vatnik vacts!!
"The poster"? You mean me? You know "the poster" and me are the same person right? I'm right here in front of you no need to be talking about me in the third person. Really rude.
It's an online forum but even in real life sometimes it's better just to let some stuff go
I can see why that would be a good strategy for you. Since all of your arguments are complete waffle. Maybe you should try letting it go for a bit longer? Come back when you've something to say that isn't on our Vatnik bingo card.
Textbook victim blaming.
And the lies and excuses of the actual Russian warmongerers lapped up without scrutiny.
And Putin the Tsar is never blamed.
