Please use this thread to continue discussing the war in Ukraine.
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Yes I think so. I think the neighbouring countries (Poland, Romania) don't want to poke their heads up and start doing it. Certainly not without having explicit and public US/NATO support, the message that someone bigger has their backs if Russia escalates (i.e. it needs a collective NATO decision that Russian stuff flying in Ukraine's Western/Southern airspace close to the borders, missiles, drones etc. will be engaged by air defence on NATO territory).
If they fear escalation (which is ridiculous) they could at the very least shoot down Russian drones and missiles that enter their airspace.
Absolutely ridiculous that Russia can fly drones and missiles over NATO countries and thus far those countries sit and watch it happening.
Not sure if this is happening with the consent of the Ukraine government? If it is, let's hope for a speedy end to the war.
This made me laugh
He's on an official trip to China so pretty certain that he is proposing peace talks with Russia, but then there have a been a number of recent developments that point in that direction.
What the article actually says:
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said his country would be ready to negotiate directly with Russia, but only when Moscow did so in “good faith”. In a meeting with his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi on Wednesday, Kuleba said Kyiv was “ready to engage the Russian side in the negotiation process at a certain stage, when Russia is ready to negotiate in good faith”.
Any sign of Russia negotiating in good faith? Nope.
But of course, you won't hold Russia to account on that, or unprompted criticism from you of Russia.
Ukraine negotiated the Budapest Agreement with Russia in good faith, Russia broke it repeatedly when it suited them. Russia has given zero reason for anyone to think it will negotiate in good faith or abide by the result of peace negotiations. Anyone who claims to care about peace, should hold them to account for that. Yet you never do. Proof positive you have no regard for real peace in Ukraine.
The only obstacle to peace in Ukraine is Russia, yet "peace mongers", who are really pro war and pro invasion because they would reward illegal warfare and illegal aggression, never call them out.
Just remember guys. This is another Vatnik poster that claimed they were gonna leave the thread a while back. A tried and true genocide apologist.
No different than Luna. Do not approach as a good faith poster.
Yes, we all hope Russia will admit their mistake and leave Ukraine, they've already done huge damage to Ukraine and themselves. On that we can all happily agree.
Anybody who refuses to call for the Russian scum invaders and rapists to leave Ukraine without condition has no interest in true peace.
And take their ever older tanks with them
I find it exceedingly rude and offensive to be characterised in such a manner. I didn't leave, I was banned from current affairs and the ban was only rescinded recently.
My opinion doesn't chime exactly with yours and you seem to think that insults are the best response. Whatever. I'll leave ye to it.
"a lot of familiies are still waiting on the Lada sack of potatoes"
Fixed that for you.
I didn't leave, I was banned from current affairs and the ban was only rescinded recently….…I'll leave ye to it.
I didn't leave, I was banned from current affairs and the ban was only rescinded recently….
…I'll leave ye to it.
Here we go again, you definitely were leaving……but didn't…..
I'll leave you all to the chat.I just feel sorry for the people dying and their families and hope the war will end. Not here for an argument. Bye
I'll leave you all to the chat.
I just feel sorry for the people dying and their families and hope the war will end. Not here for an argument. Bye
I find it exceedingly rude and offensive to be characterised in such a manner.
Oh yeah that was your thing wasn't it. Anyone who got annoyed that you were excusing genocide and war crimes were "being rude". You can spare me the overly dramatic monocle falling into martini glass tender sensibilities. I really don't care.
My opinion doesn't chime exactly with yours and you seem to think that insults are the best response.
It also doesn't chime with most of the rest of the civilized world. But you never stop to think how rude that might be?
You don't have a single coherent argument for any of your positions. And you seem to think that throwing your toys out of the pram and calling me rude will achieve something? I've no idea what that is and it doesn't really concern me or the thread topic at all.
I'll leave ye to it.
You could attempt to be better than the Russians at one thing and actually stand by your words. But I remain doubtful.
Only if they (romania ,and the rest of nato ) want it to be … in a way Romania and poland have the same issue as Ukraine , they don't want to be firing scarce and expensive long range missiles at cheap drones,
Mind you a decent system , on the border ,protecting an area against ballistic missiles , or sophisticated cruise missiles ,protected by some form of short range system, would certainly help .. especially if the radar info was shared with their neighbours in ukraine ..
Speaking of which a chief economist fell out of a window 2 days ago.
A European country is being illegally invaded, people are being slaughtered. We are in Europe. Despite that and shockingly there are still some Irish individuals who indirectly or directly support Putin and his invasion. Insane I know, but that's the grim reality. Even they are aware of how wrong the stance is and attempt to mask it by "just asking questions", concern-trolling, "playing dumb", etc to push their narrative. Which is typically rooted in crude anti-Western propaganda, identical to that which gets pumps out of the Kremlin on a regular basis.
There's nothing wrong with opinion and criticism when it comes from a normal good faith stance. There's everything wrong when it comes from Hitler Putin supporters who attempt the same weasel acts time and time again.
Very large RU assault pushed back
Very difficult for Putin to understand the message that invading a country is futile. Over 100,000 russians dead now because of Putin. And they'd still be here today if he'd just have spent the money on improving the infrastructure and living conditions of Russians instead of crossing into Ukraine.
There's a large crossover of these posters who are pro Trump supporters in other threads. There's alot of mentally ill people who have swallowed the bumpf of putins troll farms hook, line and sinker.
Not all so great , several hundred Ukrainians likely trapped near avdivka,
https://daxe.substack.com/p/a-ukrainian-brigade-collapsed-outside?r=7jgcu&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
russians harvesting organs from fallen Ukrainians now
That's pretty fcuked up if it's true. Messing about with the dead is also a war crime, so add one more to the ever-lengthening list.
UK must be ready for war in three years, head of British Army warns
While stressing that conflict was not inevitable, General Sir Roly Walker predicted that Russian President Vladimir Putin will emerge from his invasion of Ukraine "very, very dangerous" and "wanting retribution" against countries like the UK that supported the Ukrainian armed forces, whether Moscow wins or loses. source
The boiling frog treatment continues as conflicts drive global military spending to record high. 2027 is only 3 years away.
suppose a Lada and a boot full of spuds be out of the question…?
No spuds, spuds used to make vodka, Lada blown up by drone
Have a bag of onions for your son
Да, такова жизнь
More on the Hungary, Ukraine, Russian oil saga
It seems everyone is so tired of Orban they pushing Hungary to Huxit which would solve a lot of issues in EU
It's unlikely Orbán will ever take Hungary out of the EU imo.
His usefulness to Russia and China (and maybe USA under Trump or someone similar) is the Hungarian membership of the EU and his veto power over the European Council.
If they exit they are about as useful as Belarus or Serbia.
There is no way that Putin and Xi are selfless and kind enough to step up and replace all of the forfeited CAP and EU structural funding (and inward investment) for a country and a leader that has actually become much less useful to them both!
On the oil stuff, Orbán knows the EU policy, and has been bucking that for years to increase purchases of Russian oil. I think they also decided to have Russia build them a new nuclear reactor post invasion of Ukraine.
If his decisions start to blow up in Hungary's face there is no way the EU is going to go to bat for him and help him oppose the EUs own policies!
Maybe he can ask Putin to use Russia's advanced teleportation technology to get oil to Hungary!
A morally bankrupt and depraved nation.
Utterly disgusting practice.
Some good news on that
