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Orban hitched his wagon to Trump at the last Hungarian election. He's gambling, and if Trump wins, it pays off big for him. If it doesn't pan out he can just "flip" back, being a populist and having no principles is relatively easy.
Because Trump is on "their" side and Biden isn't.
Strange state of affairs really.
He is a Trump ally and openly supports the US Republicans. Orbán was also in the US for the NATO summit. He still has to go through the motions (!?) and attend that. No doubt a visit to Trump afterwards would be of far greater importance to him and his govt.
His foreign minister was apparently interviewed by their state TV, and attacked NATO criticism of Chinese support to Russia in its war, which is quite funny (or sad).
Presumably NATO remarks on China are meant to represent the Hungarian position too…("We won't put up with NATO becoming an anti-China bloc"):
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cjk3ryyk412t?post=asset%3A5e5a142b-3295-46b1-aba0-bdad681235cc#post
This excerpt below really jumped out at me
In his July 9 article, Havrylyuk claimed that Russian forces suffered 5,000 casualties for just one district of Chasiv Yar, likely referring to Kanal Microraion (the only neighborhood of easternmost Chasiv Yar that Russian forces currently control).[22] Kanal Microraion is around three blocks wide and three blocks long, and the loss of 5,000 personnel for such a small piece of territory is indicative of the highly attritional way in which Russian forces are conducting their offensive operations.
The canal that runs north south is the frontline atm.
Modi
Oh dear.
a utopia
Attempted russian assassination of Rheinmetall CEO.
Just kick out all the Russian embassies out of the EU bar one already.
Jut leave them with one person in each! No time to spy then.
One diplomat. One russian toilet cleaner. One russian window cleaner. One russian carpet cleaner. One russian receptionist. One russian pest controller. One russian IT person. One russian security guard. You see how that could go. Russians don't play by the rules. Every trick would be taken to ensure their secret service and killers could still be accommodated and facilitated in the embassies.
FFS Biden...
Is it not possible to swap role?
I.E she takes over as running candidate and he becomes vice president?
But that's only because he's never been in Russia…there's several kind of pro-Putin posters on here, there's the ones who are operating out of Putin's troll factory in Moscow, and there's the ones living here in Ireland, who are either genuine Irish, or New Irish. A lot of the new Irish, especially of Ukrainian / Baltic states extraction, hate Putin and all things Russian. Then you have the genuine Irish poster, whose posts are 100% in favour of Putin, but coming in many guises. These ones are the bullshit artists who have never even been in Russia yet profess expertise in all matters Russian. Ditto knowledge of war….yet they have never been in a country that was at war.
If Trump takes the Whitehouse in November, Putin will have won a war that is of far more importance than anything he could ever achieve in Ukraine. 20yrs of online campaigns and troll farms will have convinced America to do away with democracy and pivot toward dictatorship, whilst simultaneously installing a candidate who is completely and utterly compromised.
I find it hard to believe that the power brokers in American politics and military are willing to sit back and let it happen but it appears that Putins longest war will be won.
No wonder the talks were cut short….that kind of public admonishment wouldn't go down too well with dictator Putin. Great to see him so pissed off though!
Russia doing what Russia has been doing all along! Plying its trade.
There might be a silver lining here in that it's such a terrible gaffe that they will have to get rid of him now and let someone competent run against Trump.
Is that even the real Putin?…he's developing into a chinless wonder, going by that pic!
pretty much nail on the head…
I'm sure there's a few European immigrants also on here who are essentially second generation Russian…. ages 30's to 40's, parents grew up in the middle of the demise of the USSR, so had to deal with the crap fallout of growing up in East Germany or one of the many eastern bloc countries, listening to Mam and Dad pander to the "good oul days" of the USSR (yet moved to Ireland), and never experienced how crap life actually was during it.
I don't think Putin does very much these days and certainly doesn't go very far outside Moscow. He seems to have 2 doubles and like all things Russian, they're a bit shít. One of them has very puffy pronounced cheek bones and the other has a much more rounded face than the real thing. They're like the lookalikes who do a birthday greeting posing as your favourite celebrity, good for a laugh but you can tell its not them in seconds.
Might yet happen like that.
Given the number of Yes men that surround the russian president, I would not be surprised if its the first time in a long time, the russian president heard some truth.
Guess Ukraine will be getting their next order of ammunition at cost price or better then…
The sheer stupidity of the move, even if it hadn't been as bungled as so many other Russian military efforts, is staggering.
when it comes to quality, ruSSian attitude is always half arsed. Themselves even have a saying for that.
Hey, that's not true. Their corruption is pretty good quality
I think the worse thing is I say Trump's team are just telling Trump to sit back and relax Biden is doing the damage with all these gaffs on TV you don't need to be doing anything as the damage is being done by Biden and him saying the wrong thing. I just can't believe this is as good as America can get with their 2 candidates. Maybe something on the rules with age should be brought in as I know you have to be 35 to run for American president so maybe cut off age to run is 75 years old and you can only run once if elected at that age. The longer Biden holds on and makes more of these mistakes plays into Trumps hands and the worse thing is the best thing Biden could do for democracy is to drop out and he doesn't realise this to give someone younger a chance to beat Trump. The longer he waits to do this the harder it will be to beat Trump as you would like another candidate to have a decent amount of time to have a chance to get themselves out there to public.
A few gaffs by Donny Maga
Ohhh for sure he's done tons but I suppose the difference is there saying Biden is your president and could be again and really laying into his age stating its this. Not that Trump is years younger and you have a lot of Democrats wanting Biden to drop out is the issue so it's causing massive issues for the Democrats on the run up to the election. It's just crap that Trump will keep slinging at Biden and if the US news stations are going to be picking mistakes like this out over next few months of Biden keeps doing well a lot of people who were not sure on Trump and Biden who to vote for seeing this on all the time will probably vote Trump sadly.
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