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Russians starve their prisoners of war. They castrate their prisoners of war. They kill their own with sledgehammers and film it for sport. They rape the women of the countries they invade wholesale. Kill those when they get tired of them. They target humanitarian centres such as civic theatres and town halls to kill those civilians sheltering there. They run concentration/filtering camps and eliminate those they see as the enemy. They go through villages and bring the men onto the street and kill them with their hands tied. They target hospitals in Ukraine, Syria back to Chechnya.
That's the life of Putin.
Would you also criticize rape victims for fighting back the wrong way in a struggle and hurting themselves in the process?
Not that I think a single line of your disgusting, disingenuous Kremlin scutter is plausible.
Not a word from you about the terrorist country actually firing the initial missile at a pediatric cancer ward?
You, are beyond the pale.
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Modern air defence missiles have a self destruct mechanism for when it loses a target. Also, you can see from the trajectory of the impact, it didn't look like it was out of control when falling to the ground. Finally, there's pictures of the missile debris, you can clearly see parts that look nothing like an air defence interceptor. It's almost certainly a Russian missile.
The only question is whether it was deliberately targeted at the hospital or not. This doesn't appear likely. The real target appears to be the offices of Zavod Artem, an arms company office 2km away that got hit with multiple missiles at the same time. It's still the fault of the Russians, it was still their missile, regardless of whether it malfunctioned.
How do you know a russian robot paid account?
Because after all these years of Putin a human would know how Putin operates and knows he's the devil incarnate representative of all the evil of the kremlin and would not try and defend him.
Scolded in public, Putin didn't like that I bet.
Another thing that could prevent civilian casualties would be Russia not attacking civilian targets like cities, but since Russia is a terrorist state, that's not going to happen.
Link these reports online because they're wrong. There's irrefutable evidence a number of russian missiles hit the city centre.
Putin could have his forces send a guided cruise missile straight at a children's hospital, and you'd find a way to shift blame away from Putin. Not just that but you'd invent a way to blame Ukraine.
Oh wait, that's literally what you just did..
Don't feed the trolls. It takes quite a sick type of troll to accuse the Ukrainians of attacking their own children's hospital when putin has a record of his military attacking hospitals and the evidence for the contrary troll's argument is a vague claim they've seen some blogs on the internet. Here is a politician pictured at the UN holding some real evidence of russian missile debris being excavated from the hospital site where putin murdered more children and innocent civilians:
How am I being funny. Setting up dangerous missiles in the city centre. Sure that's asking for trouble, set them up on the outskirts to catch them on the way in and if they go rogue they will hit empty spaces. Does that not make sense?
Your funny
I've seen many reports online even from Ukrainian bloggers that the missiles that hit that hospital were rogue anti missile, missiles rather than Russia targeting those places. If my memory serves me this isn't the first time Ukrainian anti aircraft missiles have gone amuck.
I also seen reports they should set the systems up outside the cities to catch the Russian missiles when they are heading into the city so even if they run amuck they will just hit empty spaces.
Makes sense. Madness having these systems in the city centre where rogue missiles can hit hospitals and residential buildings.
10h ago13.09 CEST
An update from Reuters on Narendra Modi’s visit to Moscow:
Indian prime minister Narendra Modi told Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday that the death of innocent children was painful and terrifying, a day after a lethal strike on a children’s hospital in Kyiv.The pointed remark by the visiting Indian leader was an implicit rebuke to Putin, who moments earlier had welcomed him to the Kremlin with a warm statement on the importance of the strategic ties between the two countries.Ukraine says it has recovered fragments of a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile at the children’s hospital, which was hit on Monday during a wave of Russian attacks that killed at least 41 Ukrainians across the country.Russia said, without providing evidence, that it was a Ukrainian anti-missile system that struck the hospital.“Whether it is war, conflict or a terrorist attack, any person who believes in humanity, is pained when there is loss of lives,” Modi said.“But even in that, when innocent children are killed, the heart bleeds and that pain is very terrifying.”It was not the first time that Modi has appeared to criticise Russia over its actions in Ukraine. In September 2022, he told Putin that “today’s era is not an era of war”, and Putin said at that time he understood Modi’s concerns.India, however, has not condemned Russia’s invasion and has taken the opportunity to buy record amounts of discounted Russian oil as sanctions have decimated Moscow’s trade with the west.
Indian prime minister Narendra Modi told Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday that the death of innocent children was painful and terrifying, a day after a lethal strike on a children’s hospital in Kyiv.
The pointed remark by the visiting Indian leader was an implicit rebuke to Putin, who moments earlier had welcomed him to the Kremlin with a warm statement on the importance of the strategic ties between the two countries.
Ukraine says it has recovered fragments of a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile at the children’s hospital, which was hit on Monday during a wave of Russian attacks that killed at least 41 Ukrainians across the country.
Russia said, without providing evidence, that it was a Ukrainian anti-missile system that struck the hospital.
“Whether it is war, conflict or a terrorist attack, any person who believes in humanity, is pained when there is loss of lives,” Modi said.
“But even in that, when innocent children are killed, the heart bleeds and that pain is very terrifying.”
It was not the first time that Modi has appeared to criticise Russia over its actions in Ukraine. In September 2022, he told Putin that “today’s era is not an era of war”, and Putin said at that time he understood Modi’s concerns.
India, however, has not condemned Russia’s invasion and has taken the opportunity to buy record amounts of discounted Russian oil as sanctions have decimated Moscow’s trade with the west.
Modi should condem russia once he's safely home and cut ties with them altogether
It is an unusual agreement for Russia - they can't really afford to anger India, so they might actually have to follow it.
This is the operandi of Russia from Chechnya, Georgia to Syria.
There's probably a military playbook on when aid is seen to be delivered to rain mortars for the sake of terrorism and nothing else.
Nice pictures from Mordor
+1 to this ^
Is fuath liom iad, gach uile duine acu.
Loiscreán orthu go léir.
Murderers who killed children in hospital "are the dregs of humanity" Russian ambassador to Chechia summoned and told to deliver that message to Moscow.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jul/09/ukraine-war-live-kyiv-nato-vladimir-putin-voldymyr-zelenskiy-latest-news
She's more generous than I. I'd make him endure what so many of his conscripts have: aim a gun to the back of the head and force him to run towards fortified Ukrainian position.
May he die roaring and terrified.
A court in Moscow has issued an arrest warrant for the widow of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny on charges of extremism
''In response to the arrest warrant, she posted on X: "When you write about this, please do not forget to write the main thing: Vladimir Putin is a murderer and a war criminal.
"His place is in prison, and not somewhere in The Hague, in a cosy cell with a TV, but in Russia - in the same colony and the same two-by-three-metre cell in which he killed Alexei."
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Yeah, I'll be honest I was against shutting the embassy at the outbreak of the war, but at this point I don't see any real reason to keep it. It is clear Russia will not normalise relations with the west any time soon and any Irish people still in Russia (as our embassy will 100% be evicted) are pretty much idiots so screw it.
Looks like the south Asian countries are beginning to wise up with regard to their people being fed into the meat grinder
I agree.
There is absolutely no need for an embassy in Ireland. A single embassy for all of the EU in some dreary ex-Eastern Bloc village would be more than sufficient. There is no need to "stay in contact" in order to keep an eye on them because you can take it for granted that Vatniks will only ever be up to no good. That's all they're good for and that's all they have to offer humanity.
I'd also to know more about these notional "Irish citizens" that you hear of still being in Russia; how many of them are KGB goons who were handed a passport after living here for five years or how many of them are useful idiots like that Chay Bowes individual?
Roust them all out, I say!
Oh well, that clears that up. It wasn't Russia.
Must have been somebody else firing missiles at a children's hospital in Kiev.
ABSOLUTLY unbelievable and Totally incomphresible. The Irish and other governments of a like mind shouldDOSOMETHING re reorganising their RU embassies / reducing embassy staff or whatever. One idea would be for a number of countries to ‘club together’ and amalgamate their RU embassies into one . There must be a massive reduction in services/trade with a lot of these countries and Russia . Things can be reverted back to normal when are behaves itself- whenever and if ever that will be
meanwhile in the real world. There are pictures circulating of the actual missile and its a Russian only produced one. Attacks happened during the day so most likely true.
[LOL]"categorically"[/LOL]
Orwell Road keeping up the nonsense I see
