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Any references?
Trump won't?(obvs if he gets in)
https://x.com/TrumpFile/status/1808918134465737084
lol I think that is unfair. Unlike "Pizzagate", "Project 2025" does exist as a lobby group/think tank (Heritage foundation?) plan within the US Republicans afaik (I have not read details of these plans though). Whether Trump will listen to or appoint people involved in it if he wins power, and how much of their agenda get put into practice can't be known at this point. He is not exactly predictible either.
Pizzagate had as much traction and more air time. It is the mindset that is the same.
I'm sure there was similar fear mongering over Biden and for instance, open society foundations. It makes a nice point to fire up bases. Don't see it resulting in Gilead in a hypothetical second Trump term.
As regards Russia, imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to appeal to the man's ego. Phrase it as winning a war that Biden wasn't able to and he would probably be on board.
Would certainly agree with you as regards the predictability.
Gilead? It won't be for want of trying from groups like The Claremont Institute and SACR. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/claremont-institute-society-for-american-civic-renewal-links
If the soap manufacturer turned warlord has an army of Guardians marching on Chicago at some stage in the future then I will be worried. A talking shop for assorted right wing nutters isn't all that surprising these days. Sure to see more about agenda 2025 in the forthcoming months.
Project 2025 is very real and should scare everyone as essentially it boils down to a gutting of the US federal government and a centralizing of power with the president which combined with the authoritarians on their supreme court giving the president immunity ends whats left of democracy in the US and turns it into an authoritarian state with a dictator at its head.
russian insidiousness is everywhere
When will the world wake up?
How do they still get away with it.
When Russian control of a President backfires.
You'll see all those articles and click links on the Russian local and national websites. They are the ones where your internet security system severely warns you that they are phishing for information and introducing viruses. They are full time at it with the spam and about half is news you could take seriously even still with a Russian slant. I'd say most Russians use a hidden vpn to look at foreign news outlets and now the Russian bots are even targeting those for home consumption and unwary abroad.
Russian oil continues to burn
Seems to be no end to Ukraine attacking Russian oil facilities and no pushback from the west. Wasn't so long ago rumors were swirling that the US was against it.
It's great to see Ukraine sanctioning Russian oil and bringing the war to Russia in a way.
I'm becoming more and more convinced that this war will be the end of Russia.
It's hard not to draw parallels to the past. Imperial Russia and WW1. The Soviet Union and Afghanistan. Imagine the Yes men in the Kremlin will spin the conflict as long as they can. Behind the scenes, who knows?
What does the change to a carbon neutral economy mean for Russia?
Even without their unrepresentative political system (that USA seems to be envious of ) is their source of oncome going down the tubes as demand for oil collapses in the short to medium and long term?
How long before anyone , anywhere stops buying their oil?
What does their economy have left then?
It can't be "both sides"ed.
It is awful that a Republican party think-tank is mooting some kind of authoritarian programme for when they hold the Presidency (regardless of what actually happens). These things do have an effect and may feed into policy (e.g. am old enough to remember another Republican think-tank set of ideas called the "Project for the new American Century").
On Russia and the invasion, I have no hope of anything good from a Trump presidency. He is unpredictible in many ways, but he has been pretty consistent in his admiration for Putin, his dislike of Ukraine + the US providing support to the country and his personal animus towards Zelenskyy.
He's already managed to do serious damage by directing the lengthy "strike" on further US aid from his position of authority as the Republican candidate.
There's been quite a bit of coverage. It's telling that Trump's campaign is trying to minimize their links to the originators of the document.
Let's hope and pray he doesn't get in again. Or if he does Europe steps up to cover the slack and backs Ukraine as Russia is looking shakey.
Europe should be preparing anyway. There's no guarantee that Congress will not drag their heels again with future funding.
Would certainly agree with you as regards the Russians looking shaky. They are stuck using 1960s era cannons stripped from armoured vehicles as make shift artillery. Not exactly the signs of a military force about to smash through Ukrainian lines.
A different story if Ukraine's supposed friends' (in)action leads to a demoralization in her forces and an exodus of the civilian population who may be unwelcome in the end :-(
As mentioned in this thread there is a mindset of giving enough and the type of equipment to avoid losing the war but not to win it.
And is that the wrong mindset(not inthe thread but with the powers that be?)
But not only that. Their country is physically falling apart. It is estimated to cost trillions to fix it. Even if they got Donbas and Luhansk what would they do with them? Their cities are being destroyed and they don't have the money to fix them.
there is a whole load of natural resources in the land that russia is trying to steal…. Valuable stuff
I'm sorry I but Pizzagate is a whackadoodle conspiracy theory to hoik mentally deficient loons on board their crazy train.
Project 2025 is verifiable and real.
Only fools would say otherwise.
True, but they don't have the money or know how to extract those resources and it would take a lot of time to ramp up production. The Chinese could do it, but since they're dragging their heels for years over the Russian/Chinese gas pipelines in the east, I don't see them too keen to jump into what is contested territory thousands of miles from home.
Plenty of the global South, Africa etc will take oil, coal, whatever. Beggars can't be choosers. You're talking about countries without moral scruples about where stuff comes from as the war doesnt affect them. If the stuff is cheap, well, yay, better again. The west isn't stopping ships taking Russian resources either. And before we get on moral high horses, there are STILL a number of EU/European and US companies that have not yet ceased trading in Russia.
Russia isn't in great shape, but western commentators have been predicting Russia is close to collapse or falling apart for about 2 years now, and somehow frustratingly refuses to collapse.
They are used to shortages and mend and make do, reinforced by Cold War 2.0 propaganda that the evil west is "agin" them.
