Will this be "Independence Day" from the Tories?
Sunak resigned.
Hardly unexpected news
reform UK split the tory vote plus the anyone but tory vote.
lowest percentage of vote for a majority
I can see labour being very unpopular after not fixing immigration, NHS, economy. in a very short time.
however they should have no problem lasting the full 5 years even with defections.
it is possible the tories will take a generation to rebuild the center ground vote so 10 years of labour government.
She was Prime Minister.
Therefore the plebs are beneath her attention.
It would of been a far bigger disaster if they announced a November election. Labour has a sandcastle majority, unfortunately Starmer has been promising what he can't deliver. In fact no one can deliver that things will get better, they are left holding the baby that's why Sunak called an shock early election and scarpered. He knows the situation, not just in the UK but globally also.
The conservatives are looking for a scapegoat, someone to blame for what they have actually caused. But it won't work, i can't see Farage joining up with them, they will go it alone now.
In the next year or so big events are coming, especially in Europe. People won't be happy, reject Liberalism on mass and look for alternatives. It is inevitable lads.
What's inevitable?
5 years of Labour fixing the mess is what's inevitable.
Reads like cope to me. The left scores a win and they start coming out with all sorts of silly comments.
That explains it 😁. Thanks
It can't be fixed without p**sing off the majority of voters. He will raise taxes because he has to, he won't reduce immigration because he does not want to, the growth he relies on won't happen it could get worse. Five years is possible but he won't last that long, give it 6 months and the mood will change.
The way the Tories treated Truss and May………..
Somebody was waiting in the bushes. Serves them right.
Care to elaborate?
Any evidence for this?
Tories creeping around in bushes sounds about right alright....
You're right- what possible damage can a bunch of hemmed in bigots do, it's not as if they have a past history of such.
No.
Labour wins as expected, but the size of the reform vote is the story of the night tbh.
Starmer is no Blair and it will soon dawn on people that the issues in the UK are deeper than Starmer, or Boris or Farage or Sunak.
I dont hold out too much hope that Starmer can correct the ship and dare I sway it, in 5 years time the Tories could very well be back in.
The realignment of British politics will continue, but will the system allow it?
Nah, i'd say the story is Labour being all but dead and buried 5 years ago to then winning 412 seats is the story of the year, let alone night.
Too much emphasis being put on Reform. They are not a "new" party. They have been in different guises over the last number of years
What do you think might happen in 6 months exactly??
Given the size of their majority , they are in power for the full term and there's nothing that anyone can do about it.
Do you somehow imagine that 150 Labour MP's will resign/defect to force an Election??
Of course they won't be able to fix everything , certainly not in 5 years but suggesting that a Government with this kind of majority won't see out the full term is utter nonsense.
Reuters have a vote breakdown by party. 27% voted for minority parties, up from 8% in the last election.
I would imagine Reform would have taken far more seats on a more democratic system.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/BRITAIN-ELECTION/RESULTS/lbvgllknbpq/
The issues in the UK may be deeper, but they are absolutely the fault of Boris, Farage, Sunak et al.
I do not think the Tories have it in their capability to correct their own internal mess in those 5 years because they won't remotely agree on what the solution is. I think that Starmer's effective pragmatism will be relatively successful. It will help enormously that he won't be wasting time and political capital on nonsense like the Rwanda scheme
So what was the point of your post then?
Now just who does that remind you of.. a certain former MEP in Dublin. Both petulant and rude to the electorate.
They got less vote share than 2019. If Reform hadn't fielded candidates, the Tories would have held on to 170 more seats.
The system of election to Westminster is an absolute bust. A small swing could take away 200 of those Labour seats in a blink. And the way Britain has been going, it probably will.
Fourteen years of the Tories was just too much. I wonder what lessons there are in that for our upcoming election??
Housing is going to be the serious issue, the British Govt is as extreme free market on immigration as our own and Labour won't change that.
They are going to need a new London this decade just to house external demand, never mind internal or pent up demand.
That's not going to happen, nor would they try.
Probably , but it's hard to know how people would vote if given the option of a preference list.
In those seats where Reform were competitive but lost , would they have picked up transfers from other candidates?
How many people that voted Tory would have put Reform as 2nd choice for example or indeed vice versa?
And would that have been more than the transfer between say Labour, Lib Dems and Greens?
Suffice to say , the system they have is terrible and very undemocratic , but it's hard to know if the Nationwide % of votes would translate into a comparable number of seats in a PR vote.
Watching it live it looked like they were going to declare without her
Sure look up North, the Shinners have 7 seats (which they won't use) out of 18 on just 27% of the vote and proudly saying they are the biggest.
The vote share is totally irrelevant. This was pointed out numerous times last night. If Reform….If only if only, if only me auntie.
If only Reform wasn't there who's to say them voters wouldn't have voted Labour or Lib Dems or whoever else was on the ballot paper instead.
All conjecture
Interesting graph there.
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