If we've reached saturation in the Irish market at the current 13% of sales, what's making us so different from the UK and France where they're at 25% for the year? It would seem strange to me that our two nearest neighbours are able to sustain significantly higher market share.
Is the 25% For UK and France for fully electric or all Plug In vehicles? Did a quick google and seeing 17% for France and 16% for UK, for BEV, but could be looking in the wrong place. Both countries trending up unlike here.
significant UK sales are driven by cheap lease deals and company salary sacrifice schemes - it makes far more sense to have an EV in that instance, even if it didn’t fully suit your requirements.
Irish sales tend to be driven by fully private sales, where there’s little to no financial incentive, and financed by car loan or significant cash purchase.
Whilst I agree with you, that's not the theory of @Gerrymandering reborn who suggests that we've reached a saturation point of people who EVs are useful for.
If we've reached a saturation of usefulness no level of financial incentive will shift the needle.
Fecking green agendas. They want us to go green with solar panels, EVs and they tax the $hit out of them. Do they really care about environment or their deep pockets. EU tariff, vat, vrt 10k euro car becomes 30k euro tax.
Sigh, it's not specifically a green agenda.
There is no VAT on domestic solar installs. But there is if you buy the equipment yourself for some reason.
why blame the greens. State support for companies is illegal in Europe, same rules should apply for companies selling into Europe.
Surely the multiple grants and tax breaks offered to companies in Ireland and across the EU is a form of state support no? Maybe due to intellectual property and the environment being respected, Europe is quickly falling behind the development in China and others.
It's a question of how you structure it, grants and tax breaks applicable to a particular category of goods is ok, grants and tax breaks applied to particular manufacturers of goods is not.
We wouldn't be allowed to create an SEAI grant that only applied to cars manufactured in Ireland (if there were any)
I wonder what June figures will look like. When are they out?
Usually after lunch on the first working day of the month. Should be sometime in the next few hours
I'd imagine poor enough. Don't think Tesla managed to get many deliveries before the quarter end and the main dealers would have held cars for 242 regs for customers.
Figures are out on beepbeep. Poor overall, yet Tesla managed no 1 and no 3 for June for Y and 3.
well it’s a good time to buy. That’s for sure.
Beepbeep says the M3 was the best selling car in June. A nice surprise.
Tesla being the best seller in June is neither a surprise nor anything to be upbeat about. I think they are the only brand who won't hold over a car until July for the reg and they usually have a Q2 boat from China delivering to Ireland in June. The overall picture is very depressing. I understand that not everyone can afford to buy a new car, but among those who can, the numbers are heading in the wrong direction. Diesel sales increased by 6%. Even if you're a climate denier, very few would deny diesel's toxic emissions. Wtf is gong on?
Not really a surprise. Most car brands will be waiting until July for the 242 registration plate. Tesla are outliers in that respect. Same thing happened last June
Tax on polluting cars is too low, needs to be ramped up at point of sale to stop them being bought/built.
On the positive side 46% of car sales in June 24 were electric
primarily driven by Telsa June shipment
I think it's just a blip. The market segment of people who can afford an EV is probably spent. Tesla hype has probably disapated also.
EV prices are dropping every year and the next gen of affordable EVs are just arriving.
Batteries are dropping 40% in price also over the next year.
Price parity is predicted to happen in '26/'27 also.
So I expect sales to increase again next year and keep rising.
last year was artificially high as well with pent up demand and covid savings. Hopefully 2025 will see an improvement.
Buyers who can afford a new Tucson can equally afford a crossover EV.
just 1,490 new car registrations in June, a massive -50% drop year on year. You have to go back to 6-8 years (excl Covid) to find sales this low in June.
as others have said Tesla are the only brand that push for deliveries in the dying days of June.
Looking at the first 6 months of 2024 overall, the model Y and 3 are the 26th and 29th best selling models, and Tesla sales themselves are down 26% versus 2023.
EV sales continue their steep decline year on year, down 52% in June and 27% for the year to date:
This is EVs only, by month, and further down is EV sales by brand
Sales by propulsion and market share:
EVs 13% market share
2024 the second best year ever for EV sales in Ireland. Although you wouldn't think so from the headlines
TBH EV sales should be increasing in market share. There is a massive problem around the charging network. The goverment need to make it that every home can have their own charger. Apartment owners and home with on street parking are at a massive disadvantage. That needs to be addressed ASAP or EV will never take off.
Yes affordable charging for apartment dwellers, on street parkers is needed. Wonder what percentage of cars are affected. Car ownership in urban areas, least likely to have off-street parking suitable for charging, is pretty low I think, vaguely remember it was ~20% within the canals in Dublin for example.
Still a few hundred thousand cars I'm sure. The likes of supermarkets and shopping centres could/can provide a lot of the charging required while parked anyway.
EV charging has to take off for the simple fact new ICE cars will be unavailable from the mid 2030's.
In the meantime Ireland needs to get it's finger out like most of Europe has or we'll have a **** load of 20 year old bangers going around the place in a few years time with the owners paying astronomical road tax.
I think it's just a blip.
Sales will increase again next year.
There's a new generation of affordable EVs just coming later this year and next like the BYD Seagull and Dacia etc..
Tesla and VW IDs keep dropping in price every year also. A new Model 3 will be €35,000 after grant in Ireland soon. Model Y shortly afterwards again.
Price parity with ICEs is predicted to be 26/27.
They'll probably move the goalposts like they did before
