Separate discussion for the EU election results.
I know very little about Niall Boylan, why do people hate him?
Game on. Will Niall hang on? I think he will.
Because hes a nonsense spewing populist who dog whistles to the far right. If you look at his website of the 4 main policies hes pushing only 1 of them can be addressed as an MEP indicating he really doesnt have a clue what an MEP does and he just wants to shout at people he doesn't like or agree with much like daly and wallace currently do.
Can't believe the votes haven't been counted yet. The Irish Electoral Commission could learn a thing or two from India's elections last week. The results were out in a day or so ( they did use electronic voter machines though)
Also worth remembering the kind of radio show he has.. Would tend to just be outrageous opinions alongside exploiting callers that weren't right in the head.
He's toast!
They also knew the result beforehand as well
You don't get out much do you?
Leave aside the nonsense comparisons, even if they were in the same party they would struggle to get a transfer rate that high.
Not as easy as you think, there was probably plenty of people there Sunday and Monday but people have to go back to work, there is probably 1/4 the amount of people there counting now. How fast do you think a machine can count via a human that has to be checked multiple times?
Indeed look at doolan to boylan she only got 63% of his transfers, the idea that non party transfers could be as high as 75% is ludicrous
Basically he has always been like Jeremy Kyle with a dodgy wig.
I'm not surprised considering how popular Modi is in India and the many reforms brought in have benefit low to middle class Indians. Also, the opposition cannot keep out themselves out of corruption cases which benefitted the BJP
However, the Exit Polls got it completely wrong, they were predicting the a landslide which was way off
He's done well enough to still be in contention so far and will outlast some big hitters, but he needed a much bigger transfer from the Aontu lass than what he got. He's not doomed but I just don't see where the transfers are coming from when it comes to the left wing ladies whose votes now get distributed.
Yeah, this is the key elimoination for both of them - the loser is almost certainly toast
The media, the vote count staff and tally counters will never ever allow electronic voting. There was absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with the previous machines. There were not even connected to a network, so not hackable - even if they were hacked you would have to hack every individual machine and secretly re-program them and add an external communication port.
The problem is the results would be known within a few hours and there'd be no recounts. Once the media realised that it would deprive them of the massive increase in readership / online eyeballs they jumped on the conspiracy theory of the machines not being reliable and people's fear of technology and that spelt the end of them.
If we had them, it would save millions and millions of euro - but the election result would have been yesterday's news by Saturday afternoon.
Yes… we want the results quickly but not too quickly… something paced to a weekend news schedule :)
It should be a marathon not a sprint.
But not so long people lose interest.
There are entire reports showing all the things that were wrong with Nedap/Powervote systems elsewhere. A system using Access Jet as its database, as they did, cannot proof data consistency at all being a core issue.
He'll be dining on caviar on toast when he gets the 4th seat.
From the Indo:
Ciaran Cuffe does a Mark Twain Mark Twain famously said the reports of his death were greatly exaggerated. And the same can be said of Ciaran Cuffe's seat in the European Parliament. The Green Party MEP was being almost written off by his own party leader Eamon Ryan on Saturday morning. But as the counts go on, he is proving resilient. The key question was whether he could stay ahead of Labour's Aodhan O Riordain. On Sunday night, Cuffe's lead of 1,500 looked vulnerable after a difficult weekend for the Greens, who seems to have lost their transfer friendliness. A veteran tallyman is now tipping Cuffe to emerge victorious. "Clare Daly will get ahead of Aodhan O Riordain and his elimination will elect Cuffe," the party strategist predicted.
I would like to see him get a seat, genuine question though, what makes you so confident ?
Why do so many people get their knickers in a twist over him one way or the other? I wouldn't vote for him myself but he's hardly the antichrist
He's still quite far behind the 2 Boylans, it's going to be difficult for him
iirc they built in random splitting of surplus, rather than proportional of all that candidates votes, so there was no way of manual checking/ audit after the fact. That's really where they lost the confidence of the public.
Also, India's voting process went on for months, rather than being done in no time as suggested. I think polling was April to June - the entire country didn't vote on the same day.
If aodhan oriordan gets in he'll do her proud. A pair of open borders, free everything for everyone lunatics!
While I get impatient with how long it take, I like the process, the coverage, debate and analysis it brings. I might favour an element of technology (say a massive sorting machine that can do one task at a time {find and sort by first/next preference}) so that counts and tallied still happened manually, I think we are OK as we are. Every change away from what we have will introduce security risk, and TBH a short lag every few years is not that important.
They also took 44 days for all the voting to be done.
I'd simplify things for the Euros somehow… massive constituencies and list of candidates. Get rid of surpluses or only 1-5 preferences (number of seats).
I think the 'process' is good at generating interest in elections \ voting process etc.
I'd agree with you on this only if we had any decent coverage or commentators.
For comparison, look at what the BBC have compared to what we have. ie no comparison. I can think of at least half a dozen top class commentators on BBC from Ros Atkins to Sophie Rayworth to Jo Coburn to Fiona Bruce to Victoria Derbyshire. List goes on and on
That wouldn't speed much up. You're still required to eliminate and transfer one by one.
Surpluses only really slow things down when someone gets elected on Count #1. After that, there usually isn't that many to be redistributed.
