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I want someone like Putin too, he could be my designated driver
Putin gets more like Stalin every day
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8001gvp4dpo
https://www.thetimes.com/world/ireland-world/article/russian-hackers-attacked-official-irish-websites-before-elections-dj3jcq02g
Now why would Russians be interested in a totally unprotected country on back arse of Europe
Precisely because they can and will. Creating mayhem and confusion, disruption is their stock in trade. Expect much more, because its what Putin promised to all countries who are not actively supporting him. Deniable warfare.
An Army marches on it stomach :)
People are dying to flatter the ego of Putin.
Sums up the war and the fragility of his ego and his unsuitability to be in charge of a chipshop let alone a country.
Russia jailing it's own scientists.
If the Ukrainian army collapsed I suspect millions of citizens would just flee the country, including many men of fighting age (many already have). There are millions who, no matter their hatred for Russia, don't want to die or be imprisoned and tortured for resisting, they would rather go with their families and start over in Europe. An arrangement that Putin would also love, as it would be less trouble for him and further destabilisation of Europe via yet more refugees.
If only for this selfish reason, Europe must ensure it gives Ukraine what it needs to defend itself
Not the first time. In 1941 Stalin jailed aviation engineers. Stalin then learned about the technological advances the Nazis were making in the area of jet and rocket fighters.
So Stalin released his own imprisoned aeronautical engineer to go to work on Russia own rocket fighter project. Not operational before the end of the war.
Google it
He has gotta point
However, I think Ukrainians are a very entrepreneurial, resourceful people and very skilled ( naturally? ) in tech etc. They have shown this during this war. I imagine many countries inc Ireland would not have issues taking them on board in the workplace?
telegraph had a series of articles in last week as to what Putin’s victory would look like, it’s bad very bad
beside all the natural resources and people Ukraine actually has a larger and growing innovative industry due to this war, especially in drone warfare
A russia that won in Ukraine carried out its genocide and then proceeds onto the next European countries five to ten years down road with waves of drones and not vatniks is extremely dystopian
This I think is something a lot of the anti migrant commentators are forgetting. Ukraine and the Ukrainian people themselves would be a huge benefit to Europe and the EU if they stay in their own country and also if they choose to move to play a role in the economies of other EU countries many of whom have demographic issues with their existing populations becoming on average older leaving lots of opportunities for younger workers to play a role in a productive economy. The strength the people of Ukraine have shown in the face of persistent terrorist attacks should give them the deserved respect of everyone in the EU and further afield.
Sure, but there are also many hundreds of thousands living on benefits and unable to get jobs in Europe because they don't speak the language or their qualifications aren't recognised (not their fault) and that's a process that takes years, not months to correct. The Ukrainians currently take much more out of the economy than they put in, mass migration is a very different thing than cherry picking the best talent.
Let me add: I am absolutely in favour of hosting all refugees who genuinely need a safe place while the war is ongoing, I don't mean the above as anti migration statement. Just that integrating a peaceful, prosperous Ukraine would be much easier and better than absorbing millions fleeing a Ukraine in ruins. I hope that day will come
Meh kick out a Russian out of Europe for every migrant Putin drives into Europe and stop issuing visas and seize any asset remotely connected to Russia
The moment the oligarchs are prevented from sending their wives and kids into Europe and they are left at home to nag their husband is the moment minds are concentrated on taking Putin out
That is not fair to the other Coalition member, FPD, who are just as much in favour of actions against Russia. It is just the SPD and most especially Olaf Scholz who puzzingly wish to appease, appease, appease.
This is gaining traction. Was rumours earlier, but bigger sources not picking up on it
Very sobering article, I naively still believe that Putin will never attack a NATO country, but the line about Poland and Romania not waiting to find out in the event of a Ukrainian defeat has certainly caught my attention.
Throw in a Trump Presidency which would lessen the NATO deterrent in the eyes of Putin and it highlights why the West needs to keep backing Ukraine.
That said it's hard to see Ukraine reclaiming significant territories so I'm not sure how the war ends without some sort of Ukrainian concession. Taking the moral catastrophe of rewarding military might with territorial gain out or not for a second, would current Russian gains since Feb '22 been a major strategic defeat for the west? I'm not sure if would be, Ukraine still has Black Sea access in the current front line scenario and Russia has proved itself incapable of defeating Ukraine without full NATO conventional support.
Indeed he does! And an EU defence force is needed as has been well proven by recent events involving Vladimir Putin. NATO is fine, but yet when someone like Orban can interfere and even block NATO activity, we need an independent military.
If the US wants to isolate itself, that's fine, but they can pack up all their military bases and infrastructure on the continent while they're at it.
Well, well, well,
Let's get some confirmation on this
Edit: another source
Also a first
And bit of good news on the Front
Who wouldn't want to live in a new house in Russia ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/1dbmcyl/new_district_is_being_built_in_tyumen_russia/#lightbox
Meanwhile, Putins Russia, an explanation for the falling population nrs, and big drop in abortions..from a very brave man.
https://x.com/i/status/1799814964003086467
”70% of the houses in this development don’t have electricity because developer cut corners”
How … very Russian
Lol
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ztdw
9pm tonight
Heartbreaking.
Is Putin showing signs of dementia?
https://x.com/i/status/1799839688003665951
