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Loader Bale Handling

limo_100

Hi Folks

Looking for some implements for handling bales in both seasons and was think it was getting just a plain bale spike and then a soft hands bale lifter just wondering what people have and use. I was thinking off going quickie as there the best made i'v seen but there also the most expensive.

What do lads think of either of these types would the 2spikes be the better for lifting bales or would the 3spikes give more control? I will be spiking the bales in there sides as its a double passage way. The felming type is roughly 400 and the quickie is 450? any any experience with either type?

For the soft hands I was thinking of either of the quickie ones

There is only 200 euros between the different types with the uni grip 1550 and flexigrip 1750 roughly? Any one got these I was leading towards the flexigrip as you can lock one of the sides? What do others have or does anyone have these ones and have any feedback?

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limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122131917#Comment_122131917

Think that without the brackets for the hustler not sure how much the brackets would be after that. seen the nugent at 1350. Cashels and quickie are roughly 1800

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122131552#Comment_122131552

How long do you have them and how much did they cost back then? things are gone too expensive

Dunedin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122132272#Comment_122132272

have it about 14 years. It was 6 months old when I got it and bought it off a contact I knew so price was reasonable.

I gave €850 and the new price was around €1200 then I think.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122132316#Comment_122132316

That was a fair price in fairness and FairPlay to nugget they haven't increased the prices to the extreme

SodiumCooled

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121495792#Comment_121495792

It may put some extra wear on it but equally you are putting extra wear on other components if it's off as you are bouncing around more. You would have to travel slower too which is a pain on a long draw. We have both front suspension and soft ride, the soft ride has never been turned off in about 12 years we have the loader, the front suspension I sometimes turn off if doing fairly static work like loading dung into a spreader or very heavy lifting but anything you can travel at a reasonable speed with e.g. drawing bales its on as its far rougher to drive with it off even on fairly good surfaces. We draw bales with a softhands too so I find keeping things smoother is better.

Fine Day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122130996#Comment_122130996

No, no issue nicking bales. The odd one maybe but that's normally down to the operator🤫. I have no complaints anyways.

FintanMcluskey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122130999#Comment_122130999

The ram nearest the swivel leg (Scully) prevent loosing grip of the bale when travelling but sacrifices the manoverability of the design with the ram further away (JM).

JM most popular at home

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122134342#Comment_122134342

The Cashels version of it looks very good as well that's the one I would go to for. It and the JM look neater

limo_100

got a few prices last few days

Quicke flexigrip 1800

Mchales 1850

Cashels 1950

Rossmore 1650

Hustler 1800

Nugent 1350

Just some prices for anyone looking not sure which I'll go with but will buy next week

kevthegaff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122138913#Comment_122138913

Is that soft hands?

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122139117#Comment_122139117

Yeah that's for soft hands

I did get some trunks prices

Jm agri 2025 in tirlan thats a good price

Cashel's 2100 direct off cashel's

dan2345

have used a scully trunk before loading trailer and stacking bales, get used to it in 10 mins and never want to use rollers again

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A bit off topic but relevant, what weight would you want on the back of the tractor when feeding bales/pitt silage?

New Holland TS100A

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145206#Comment_122145206

Get urself a concrete block on and off in a few secs 750kg would do you but I think they can be got 900kg also

limo_100

I went with the hustler in the end in seems like a great piece of kit haven’t got to use it yet but hopefully next week. Quick question this is the first implement I need the third function for. Tractor originally had a two male connections. The implement when I looked at at had one of each male and female but the one I got delivered has also two males. Which is the correct or best way to set up these connections. Is there a standard or is it just personal preference?

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204954#Comment_122204954

Just personal preference. Some people like a male and a female as it means the hoses will always be connected the same way.

Personally I prefer 2 females on the implement with 2 males on the tractor. The reason for this is to keep the fittings clean. If there’s a female on the tractor it will be facing the sky and when using a bucket or spike that won’t have hoses connected the female fittings will fill up with dirt. With males on the tractor it’s easy wipe any dirt off them with your hand before connecting a hose and with females on the implement the hoses when disconnected can be left hanging on the implement with the fittings facing the ground and no dirt will get into them like that.

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122205046#Comment_122205046

Same as DBK1 2 male fittings on the loader. 2 females on the implements. Handy tip is to put a cable tie on one of the hoses to mark it. Most folks get used of using a grab or handler one way on a joystick. It's saves time.

Keep 1 or 2 spares of a male and female on the shelf in case of emergency

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204954#Comment_122204954

Also if it’s your first implement with third service, just so you know, make sure you let the pressure off your hydraulics before connecting or disconnecting hoses.

To do this switch off the tractor, turn the key back on without starting the tractor, press the button on the joystick and move it left and right as if you are trying to open and close the grab. This lets the pressure off the hoses and you’ll pop them on and off no problem. Do the same with the tractor before you try connect the hoses and well.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122205713#Comment_122205713

Perfect lads got it set up had to get two females for the handler got them all connected up and she's now working perfectly looking forward to a few bales now next week 🤣

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122206634#Comment_122206634

Just thought it was better build and also the equaliser bar keeps the arms opening and closing evenly and there a 5year warranty which really helped

minerleague

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122205713#Comment_122205713

Good advice there, just to add notice if you take off hydraulic implement in cold weather but put it back on in summer when it's hotter the oil in ram can expand a little making it hard to reconnect.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209548#Comment_122209548

So how do you get around this?

limo_100

Does the same thing work for the hydraulics in the back end of the tractor i'v had a few battles with the hydraulic top link over the years 😂

minerleague

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122211607#Comment_122211607

Pressure isn't huge, small piece of timber and tap the valve in centre of fitting usually releases it

V6400

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122211607#Comment_122211607

I have 1 male 1 female on mine, join them to each other when taking it off and never any problem.

jimmy G M

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145206#Comment_122145206

Have a 550kg concrete block on the back of a MF 4255. Operates a baleshear all winter. Now its grand but if buying again, Id go 200kg heavier.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122220807#Comment_122220807

Have a 750kg on a 5455 its a good job can manage without it but tractor is a lot safer with it on and skids less

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852363#Comment_122852363

I can’t answer your question re the stabiliser bar but as a baling contractor I can tell you don’t buy a Fleming soft hands. They’re a bad design and a p**ck of a yoke to use compared to any of the others. I’ve a few customers that have them and they all hate them. One man comes and gets the rossmore from my yard rather than use his own Fleming.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852363#Comment_122852363

Agree with @DBK1 have a friend has two of them hates them so I never even considered it. I have a hustler Lm100 that's the size for tractors and it doesn't have a check valve so have to constantly keep a squeeze on the bale incase it loosens. I would like if it had a check valve tbh as the bale can loosen as it's rotated. Tractor was checked out and no issue with pressure there