Champions Cup final thread

You call a decision from a referee in a rugby match criminal, and you think I need to calm down?

Very few, if any, teams have the same talent that Leinster do. They consistently failed to delivered with that talent. I

He had one hand around his neck and one under his armpit. Carley thought he was being clever by telling them to bring him down safely - which they did - but he completely overlooked the arm around the neck. This behaviour is common in refs but usually seen when players are trying to hold up a try - the ref ignores high hits/grabs around the neck & focuses on whether the ball was grounded. It's an annoyance but not peculiar to Carley.

When VdF came up after being brought into touch his scrum cap had been ripped off. Not likely if someone just had a hold of him under his arm.

They wear other peoples skin ?

That's either being a bit tongue and cheek or you dont understand sport.

Not every team has the same ambition or goals.

I don't think Cullen should go either just to be clear.

Same here, Munster man, but cheering the boys in blue today! Desperately unhappy with that brain-dead start to the 2nd half of ET. Leinster had to be big favourites only 3pts down and with an extra man, after that brave decision to go for a try before the break paid off.

TNT have Jack Willis for forty one (41) tackles. That is absurd

Leinster were genuinely unlucky with that call. It looks as if it's a foot that causes it to roll forward and McCarthy didn't even touch it. Andy McGeady has a clip of it on twitter. 'Knock on' seems to have been a Piardi call from the touchline.

The time McCarthy touched down in the first half looks to have been from a rip instead of a knock on, so that should have stood - caveat being I only saw a replay once.

How unlucky is it to get two misinterpretations from officials in the phase tries are scored in?

Please stop. You are embarrassing yourself at this point.

It was a clear knock-on by the Toulouse player in the first half that at least warranted a penalty kick. Just because the ball happened to roll backwards into touch from where it landed doesn't negate the fact it went forward off his hand. His hand from his only arm that went for the ball. I have no idea where Carley came up with the regather justification considering the player never had possession of the ball in the first place. For what it's worth the James Lowe knock-on was a stone-cold yellow for me as well.

The VDF no-call for a headlock was one of the most egregious no-calls from a ref/TMO I have ever seen. The Toulouse player clearly had his right arm/forearm around his neck. It happened right in front of Carley and he should have called it. When he missed it his TMO should have come in.

I don't think any of these decisions singularly affected the overall result. I don't think the performance of the referees affected the result either and Leinster truly only have themselves to blame. But to say it wasn't a knock-on by Toulouse and that there was no headlock on VDF is laughable and should be considered a poor effort at trolling at best.

Nothing sad about it. This happens for all kinds of reasons.

I watched the incident regarding the Toulouse knock on again. It went forward in relation to the player, but not forward towards the opposition line, so it wasn't a knock-on. That said, refs often call any loss of control as a knock-on, so I can see why people would feel aggrieved.

The Lowe incident was unquestionable, though. Stupid play to go for.