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And, what's a summary of what he's saying. Dumping Youtube links is bad form.
Beside talking about **** himself there’s that ^
And we still have posters questioning the daily figures that are above 4 digits for months now
I thought they mainly had a choice between WeChat or WeChat or WeChat?
Which WeChat is apparently very comprehensive.
Translation: The entire network is littered with this footage of the destruction of the S-400 division in the Donetsk region. The S-400 was hyped by the Kremlin, and it was presented as a weapon capable of shooting down anything and everything. Yesterday or the day before yesterday, Ukraine struck with 5 ballistic missiles #ATACMS.
Wonder if true,
Then again a ceasefire just gives Russia time to rearm.
Can anyone here help with this?
So to summarise last two weeks on this thread, we went from:
to:
Wowe much drama in the never ending Russian circus
edit; oh nearly forgot the Putin visit to Xi where ended up looking like a cuckoo
So pretty looking.
There must have been a substantial delivery of ATACMS to Ukraine. There's been some prominent strikes all involving (or claiming) multiple missiles used.
I really home Ukraine is working on their own homegrown missile system (Hrim-2) like they have with their air and sea drones.
That story seems to pop up every few months.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putins-suggestion-ukraine-ceasefire-rejected-by-united-states-sources-say-2024-02-13/
@zerosquared Apt description for Putin, a cukoo is a most natural Social Parasite
Hopefully some truth in that. This awful awful war needs to stop.
It's all within Putin's power to unilaterally end this war by removing Russian soldiers from Ukrainian land. He chooses not to.
No, not if it is just a truce for Russia to re-arm and break any agreement when it suits it.
It needs to stop with Ukraine secure from further invasion, and Russia not rewarded for its illegal, unjustified invasion, war crimes and atrocities. Otherwise, there will be more 'awful awful' war to come. And the sole blame for this 'awful awful' war rests entirely with Putin and Russia.
I’m trying to figure what triggered it, is it the potential mutiny
or this
Are we allowed to start placing bets on how many Russian aircraft be shotdown in coming Turkey shoot
100% well said .
Yup - when ruZZians go home.
Given that Putin might be musing a ceasefire on current lines, it might indicate that the Russians are reaching their operational limit. Kharkiv might have been an attempt to deal Ukraine a haymaker blow while they still had the means to do it. But since they haven't reached that objective, Putin may be now realising that if Ukraine can stabilise the front, rearm and push back, that the Russians might not be able to hold them off for too much longer.
So I think he's hoping to hold onto what he's got. I fully expect Kremlin-influenced posts screaming even more for "peace" in the near future.
It will stop all right as soon as some one 'taps' putin on the shoulder. Once he is gone his replacement will be very keen to quit its invasion of Ukraine.
Sure it must be true - we've been hearing for more than two years that Putin would be quite happy to negotiate a ceasefire … if only Ukraine would accept his terms, completely and without question.
I don't know why any supposedly reputable news outlets bother reporting this kind of nonsense.
Meanwhile, on the not-sure-if-reputable network, there's talk of the Russians pulling their aircraft and associated operations out of Dzhankoi for the safety of places more to the east and south. Seemingly the spate of recent "arrivals" across the whole of Crimea, targetting air defence in particular, has persuaded them that keeping planes and pilots in the centre of the peninsula is no longer a good idea. (Sorry, can't provide the link as my FY-Elon workaround is very flaky this week)
If there's any truth in the Reuters story, maybe, just maybe, Putin has started receiving unvarnished reports of the situation and recognises that he's very close to losing more than he gained with his Feb22 madness, so needs to cash in while he still can.
The ease with which almost a billion worth of an S400 defence system got swatted out of existence is something else (The Turks must looking on with amazement at how bad the decision to buy these is now looking in retrospect)
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/A03NOMh9A8
just as Ukraine are about to be able to strike inside russia…..
Pretty much this.
This ceasefire statement is potentially good news. But not for the obvious reasons of Putins statement. Not because there could be a ceasefire on current lines.
But because of why Putin is saying it. If anyone remembers when we were in the middle of US aid to Ukraine being in doubt. Putin was asked about a ceasefire and his answer was(and I'm paraphrasing here): "Why would we stop now when there's no US aid and we're winning?"
This is simply the flipside of that coin.
This is no time to talk peace. It's time to double down. You want a ceasefire? Out of Ukraine you go. All of it. Anything short of that would be an historic and monumental WW3 inciting mistake. I just hope Western leaders don't relax or pay any heed to this. I really do.
I've worked with several Chinese people abroad, and they were great people to be with, that is until the conversation turned to China, and then the shutters come down! No further discussion.
It does sound like he wants to cash in, the Ukrainians are going to be far better equipped very soon, and the resolve in the west is hardening, in Europe at any rate. The war has been an utter disaster from his point of view, he could easily have been toppled last summer, but if he ends it now he can leave while maintaining power.
I'm guessing the midget knows now he won't measure up to Peter the Great, an aspiration which in the first place shows how mad he is.
I will echo this too. Regular Chinese people can often be simply fantastic & friendly. I count some really good friends from China. But yea..politics either isn't a thing for many, or if it is they're very much subscribed to Beijing's messaging.
Add the destruction of the early warning, over the horizon ICBM detection radar to the list
The only way for peace with Putin around is deterrence.
Honestly, if in Feb 2022 the collective West had just said that they would assist Ukraine, this whole war probably wouldn't have ever happened.
Very good video, and at the end, famous last words (possibly literally) "we cannot win this war, the price in human lives is simply too high". I wonder how many countries it can be seein in? Would do wonders for slowing down Putin's foreign and indeed home recruitment.
Trust nothing that comes out of either the Kremlin or its boss, Putin. These kinds of "offers" show that he's getting desperate. Talks about his being magnanimously prepared to stop the war if he's allowed to keep his ill-gotten gains is simply rewarding him for his robbery. And, neither will that be the end of it either, because the leopard does not change its spots.
Terrible that he mentions soldiers coming from Nepal, Cuba, India and himself from China. Despite facing a brutal death.
As long as the regular people of Moscow and St.Petersburg aren't impacted by this "special military operation", Putin can continue with it.
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