on the flip side, I got very little training with the machine after it was installed last week, manager was given a brief introduction & after that we're just learning as we go. have had quite a few problems with it so far, which usually solves itself after we open it up & turn it on and off again. which is a pain in the hole. we're understaffed and busy enough as it is without wasting 5-10 mins multiple times a day just so a custeromer can get 30 cent or whatever back. i can understand why some shops might be simply turning the machines off & pretending they're out of order if it's busy or just keep having problems.
our machine is different to other ones i've seen which is unbelievably stupid. you have to press the start button on it , while others i've used you just starting inserting the bottles/cans. if you dont press start it often causes problems. why make models with different procedures ffs?
it's also seems quite dangerous imo and when you open it up there really is a lot of fast metal moving parts. i think it's only a matter of time before some employee get seriously injured
In one Lidl the girl who trying to fix the machine for me was sticking her hand in the chute trying to clear the stuck can - said to her are you mad, don't be doing that, you'll end up losing your hand. They should have some stick for things like that
something like a rubbish picker upper would be perfect. might mention to manager in work actually about getting one & keeping it for the machine.something similar should have been supplied with the machine
There's a lad I work with probably on about 70k+. He has one can of 330m coke with lunch every day. Then on Friday he trudges off to the local rvm to return his five cans for the sake of 75c. It's like some people are just brainwashed into complying with this harebrained scheme. I joked that he could just bin them and I'd give him a euro a week instead.
Returned two full bags to Dunnes machine today, took em all, 17 euro returned
Yip. The French have cancelled theirs to research ways of tackling plastic usage in general in conjunction with whatever they introduce to meet EU targets.
That'll be the end of the scheme, when some unfortunate retail worker on minimum wage loses an arm to an RVM
Could have been a touch of that too but the dairy industry definitely didn't warm to DRS.
I hope I'm not in the queue behind you when you decide to take that particular direct action 🙂.
You can trust them to know what they are doing. They are a big supplier to the food and beverage trade.
I had a chat with a guy in town who I saw collecting from bins last week. He said he works about 12 hours a day, and makes between €50-€75. Not sure how accurate he was with his figures, but that’s what he said anyway. He said he was a former prisoner, so employment opportunities were limited for him. I assume he’s on state supports as well. He also said he’d been moved out of Heuston station by security, who didn’t want him collecting there.
it’s an art form. We should arrange competitions to see who can get as many crushed containers to be accepted by the machines in as little time as possible. Could be one an Olympic sport.
Some of the machines occasionally give out for placing your hand too far in. Another peril of having shovel mitts.
A Red Bull challenge ;-)
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What happens if a customer steal 30 cent from you, will that matter? . That is what you're doing if you don't give them their deposit.
RePack got the gig and setup Re-Turn ad a new company.
And slap big fines on them.
I've had 4 interactions with the system to date:
1 total failure
2 worked fine
3 machines switched off/ out of order
4 worked fine
Probably about typical. Not fit for purpose.
Just watched a lad trying to put a load of bottles into one of these things and failing repeatedly. Just wasting his time.
Fucking joke. 🤣
They definitely need to change it so that when an RVM is out of order manual returns are required. When we went to our local Aldi this morning the machine had an out of order sign on it. The previous visit it was being fixed when we went into the store and functioning on the way out. Thankfully we’ve always managed to get a working machine when needed.
The error messages on the machines are poor. In Dunnes I put in a bottle, rejected first time, message said something like barcode not in scheme. It had the Re-turn logo. I carefully placed it back with barcode face down and it was accepted. The message should have told me it hadn't read the barcode.
There won't be any fines for the system not working properly.
The local authority will only be looking at the stock on the shelf to make sure it's all in the scheme.
A small upside in all this is that there may be a few bargains in the next few weeks as shops get rid of old stock.
That's interesting, I thought it didn't make any difference what way you presented the containers.
Must try it out next time.
It was posted here a while back that if you insert the containers bottom side into the machines it seems to accept more for some reason.
That's right I remember that.
They said hold the bottle by the neck and place it on the belt.
But I thought it was supposed to find the barcode for you.
A lot of things were said about this scheme! I'm still on the fence but will take a side in June and see if it improves after a couple of losses trying to get my deposits back. I think I have about a 70% success rate which means it costs me more time and money for doing what I was doing at home for free. I'm 6km from my nearest machine so if it doesn't work I have a stockpile and have to hope it's working the next time.
One can refused for me so far.
It was one of four identical, the other three worked fine.
And it was a Dunnes machine so I'm guessing maybe it took exception to the way I presented the can 🙂
Would a machine like this in Finland not make more sense than the sort of thing we have here?
Looks like you just tip an entire bag of bottles and cans into the machine and it sorts everything out.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/swB_nAVHpPM
I'm more impressed that they have a whole room for recycling everything!
how long did that take?
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