Still though even the longer range EVs like the new M3 LR will struggle with 400km at 120 so you would need to charge along the way. Issue is that you can't really arrive at your destination with 0% and that's assuming that your destination will have a place to charge.
300km @120, 100km @100.
If your destination is home, then you could confidently run it down to zero.
MG4 Extended range might manage to 400km trip.
I've done 300km in my 64kw Exclusive which has a claimed range of 435km max (and had 11%/30km left).
The Extended range has a 77kw and a claimed range of 520km - at €42k ish price range.
I’ve reached the conclusion that many, many people in this world lack the capacity to consider the broader picture when it comes to these matters.
Most people are lazy. Too lazy to ever arrange to get a home charger installed, even though home charging would be less effort than driving to a filling station. Sure most people are too lazy to change electricity provider to get a better price, too lazy to get quotes for car insurance renewals, etc.
A significant cohort of people won't buy an EV until either public charging infrastructure is ubiquitous and plentiful, or they are near forced to install a home charger.
Or when their loudest mate or the favourite influencer buys one.
I was the one who brought up the “400km winter motorway 125kmph” trip.
I mean a 200km each way journey, returning home with no range issues. as someone said above, even the m3 LR won’t do it, I’ve tried. It does get close, but not 400.
Note: the EVdatabase motorway ranges are recorded at 110kmph speeds, so even those are a reasonable guide
Note 2: I did 340km in a 2022 m3 LR recently, all M7/M9 motorway at 123kmph and it had 9% remaining.
The winter motorway is at -10 on EV database though. I still reckon the EQE will do it if it's around 0/-2° 'ish. Basing that on my experience a few weeks ago, not all motorway but it was very cold and windy with a full car.
The only car with a longer range here is the EQS 450+ .
Or until prices fall to comparable ICE levels.
€65k for the EQS yeah? There are €5k ICE cars that can do it though 😉.
Has that not already happened?
No because you can get a €10k ICE that can do 700- 800 kms, but you can’t get an EV that can do that mileage at that price.
Even if you look at 300kms in the depths of winter- what EV can do that at €10k?
There is but unfortunately for some of us benefit in kind doesn't care about a 5k car it's based on the new value so you may as well have a newish car. I'd have no issue driving an older car it would just cost me a fortune though.
Oh you're talking about old cars. Fair enough you'll have to wait another year or two for a Kona, Niro at that price point. Although you'd probably break even on buying one now with the fuel savings over the 2yrs.
A (10 year old?) Kona or Niro will not do 300kms in the depths of winter at 120kph on a motorway.
There aren’t many older used EVs which can do that because the EV market is still relatively new compared to ICE/ Hybrid.
Your options are wait a couple of years, stop for a short charge or drive slower (in winter), work out the numbers and buy new if the savings make sense, or buy something else.
I still think that such a target as that simply isn't that impressive.
It seems the buying public might be inclined to agree.
totally agree with you - right now, effectively no cars can meet this already low bar
If you're driving 200km each way on a motorway everyday I'd suggest you're living in the wrong location.
field engineers , sales people etc will do that daily. Nothing to do with their location as they cover the 32 counties
Yeah, all our motorways are 200km+ long alright all over the 32 counties, don't know why I thought they weren't…
The vast majority of "field engineers" and "sales people" won't. Occasionally they might, but the almost none will be crossing the country every day.
I'm part of a team of field engineers, and there's about 3 days a month I or others on the team would do 400km in a day. The vast majority of days are less than 100km.
Our sales teams certainly aren't doing those type of distances too regularly either, especially in this era of video calls.
So what cars does the company supply to the 'field engineers'? For the sake of a couple of public charges on the days longer journeys are covered, it would seem to be a waste of money if anything beyond a Ioniq 28kwh is provided. Id imagine the 'field engineers' might throw a few hissy fits on hearing that suggestion. Again, needs versus wants.
I know it seems quite inexplicable to some but the inconvenient truth is that some people want longer range cars and no amount of brow beating and admonishment will change that in the short term.
when I was on the road. I’d do Cork one day, Galway the next, limerick , Belfast the next and so on. Most them are mostly motorway all the way
It wouldn't be a car, it would be a van.
Just because you don’t , doesn’t mean others don’t. I certainly did as do many others who move between pharma manufacturers and others.
If you don't want an EV fine, don't buy one.
But for the love of mike can you stop spamming every EV thread about why you want to do 700+ with F1 style pit stops.
Maybe the mods could create a sticky thread ("Why I'm not buying an EV") where all these posts could go. Because the same posters have repeated the same thing, same argument about 20 times across many threads at this point.
you forgot to say something about FUD.
I think the point some people try to make is that it doesn't have to be everyday. Even if its a reasonably regular longer commute/journey some people want a longer range EV before willing to make the move. That's OK too. All in good time
You've literally just been agreeing with this post... "...field engineers , sales people etc will do that daily…"
If someone want a repmobile with a 1000+ range, for €2K go buy one. Who cares why or for how much.
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