Yeah, all our motorways are 200km+ long alright all over the 32 counties, don't know why I thought they weren't…
field engineers , sales people etc will do that daily. Nothing to do with their location as they cover the 32 counties
If you're driving 200km each way on a motorway everyday I'd suggest you're living in the wrong location.
totally agree with you - right now, effectively no cars can meet this already low bar
I still think that such a target as that simply isn't that impressive.
It seems the buying public might be inclined to agree.
There aren’t many older used EVs which can do that because the EV market is still relatively new compared to ICE/ Hybrid.
Your options are wait a couple of years, stop for a short charge or drive slower (in winter), work out the numbers and buy new if the savings make sense, or buy something else.
A (10 year old?) Kona or Niro will not do 300kms in the depths of winter at 120kph on a motorway.
Oh you're talking about old cars. Fair enough you'll have to wait another year or two for a Kona, Niro at that price point. Although you'd probably break even on buying one now with the fuel savings over the 2yrs.
There is but unfortunately for some of us benefit in kind doesn't care about a 5k car it's based on the new value so you may as well have a newish car. I'd have no issue driving an older car it would just cost me a fortune though.
No because you can get a €10k ICE that can do 700- 800 kms, but you can’t get an EV that can do that mileage at that price.
Even if you look at 300kms in the depths of winter- what EV can do that at €10k?
Has that not already happened?
€65k for the EQS yeah? There are €5k ICE cars that can do it though 😉.
Or until prices fall to comparable ICE levels.
The winter motorway is at -10 on EV database though. I still reckon the EQE will do it if it's around 0/-2° 'ish. Basing that on my experience a few weeks ago, not all motorway but it was very cold and windy with a full car.
The only car with a longer range here is the EQS 450+ .
I was the one who brought up the “400km winter motorway 125kmph” trip.
I mean a 200km each way journey, returning home with no range issues. as someone said above, even the m3 LR won’t do it, I’ve tried. It does get close, but not 400.
Note: the EVdatabase motorway ranges are recorded at 110kmph speeds, so even those are a reasonable guide
Note 2: I did 340km in a 2022 m3 LR recently, all M7/M9 motorway at 123kmph and it had 9% remaining.
Or when their loudest mate or the favourite influencer buys one.
Most people are lazy. Too lazy to ever arrange to get a home charger installed, even though home charging would be less effort than driving to a filling station. Sure most people are too lazy to change electricity provider to get a better price, too lazy to get quotes for car insurance renewals, etc.
A significant cohort of people won't buy an EV until either public charging infrastructure is ubiquitous and plentiful, or they are near forced to install a home charger.
I’ve reached the conclusion that many, many people in this world lack the capacity to consider the broader picture when it comes to these matters.
MG4 Extended range might manage to 400km trip.
I've done 300km in my 64kw Exclusive which has a claimed range of 435km max (and had 11%/30km left).
The Extended range has a 77kw and a claimed range of 520km - at €42k ish price range.
300km @120, 100km @100.
If your destination is home, then you could confidently run it down to zero.
Still though even the longer range EVs like the new M3 LR will struggle with 400km at 120 so you would need to charge along the way. Issue is that you can't really arrive at your destination with 0% and that's assuming that your destination will have a place to charge.
A good chunk yes but not 400km of 120 speed limit.
The amount of people who do the Cork Belfast journey must be miniscule, even once a year.
There are three key range milestones in Ireland. Cork-Dublin, Cork-Dublin return and finally, all day driving. The last two are somewhat equivalent of one another.
At the moment, affordable/family EVs can do the first easily. I don't think there are any on the Irish market that can do the second but when the polestar 4 is available it will be very close.
When vw group release the SSP we will start to see mid level family cars at the 600km range. But that's not expected until 2027.
Cork to Belfast would be over 400km with a good chunk of it on the motorway.
Most trips would be round trips so only 200km to do 400km. I do 250km regular motorway trip most weekends and it's mostly 120.
Is there 400km of motorway with a speed limit of 120kmh in Ireland? I don't think there is
It definitely feels like a bargain compared to an e-class diesel, they're around 90k for 241...
Battery is plenty big enough for us Islanders, could see why they'd want a bigger one on the mainland.
Hopefully the new one keep prices solid for anyone who bought this year. I'm not sure why you'd pay 25k extra for a diesel e-class before an EQE, it makes a lot of sense for high milage drivers. You've a descent discount on fast chargers with the Mercedes charging card if you ever need a top, iOnity and ESB fast chargers are .38c per kWh.
Is it a furlongstick now?
The yardstick for wider adoption seems to always get longer and longer.
I suppose the point, for what it’s worth, that if “400kms of 120kmph winter motorway driving” is a yardstick for wider adoption and remove range arguments as an issue, there’s almost no new EVs capable of that, bar a small handful of very expensive options.
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