I've been saying this for a few years now, but I wasn't expecting the CEO of a major car maker not just to silenty accept this reality, let alone going on the record to say it. Not for at least another year when this will be very obvious to all but those with their head deep in the sand
https://www.webpronews.com/audi-anticipates-the-accelerated-demise-of-fossil-fuel-cars/
bear in mind that the Audi CEO isn’t just shooting his mouth off - he’s acutely aware of the coming many years of models, materials, tech, R&D, etc etc. the only unknown for auto manufacturers right now is government policy.
the Toyota CEO made a similar statement about EVs 2-3years ago and the airwaves filled for many weeks that this was Toyota being caught behind the times - when in reality they already knew how the economics of expensive EV car sales were going to go, and are reaping the benefits today.
Audi/VAG are just trying to shake the trees of government because of the upcoming changes in annual sales quotas of EV v ICE.
All these stories with dealers not taking in EVs nearly always start with " I know a guy" or " I have a friend" .🤔
My dealer rang me today to see if I wanted to trade up my Ioniq 5 for a new one, while the price they offered for mine was decent, the price of the new car was too much compared to a VW ID4 or Model Y.
Can't get them to take or don't like their offers?
OK,didn't see that
Yeah this is a good point and one I’ve mentioned before.
He must be well clued in on what governments are going to do to boost electric car sales.If they don't move it soon I would expect hydrogen to overtake electric.An AI experimental report or a katie?
They are not cheaper to purchase though. If they were more would buy them.
Won’t happen in Africa, Oceania, Middle East, or South America , even the us.
I know two different people who can't get any garage to take their EVs as a trade in 2 year old and 3 year old premium brands (looking to trade up into the EVs again even). Someone at work with a year old EV and going back to a hybrid next year. I wouldn't even consider a full EV for many many years yet and this is a sentiment that's quite common. I would consider a hybrid but would still see diesel as first choice for both next car purchases in the household.
I would be very very surprised if ICE cars are still not comfortably outselling EVs in 2026 and beyond.
At least Audi could produce a better looking EV. Look how worst looking is their Etron ev. But I understand that all the German manufacturers are in deep trouble.
people will move to whats cheapest, EV are cheapest, and with the fuel pricehikes, will be getting cheaper.
Right. And the only component in a BEV that requires these "rare earth metals" is the magnets in the permanent magnet motor, if installed, and even on those alternatives are now available. The battery doesn't contain any, and the same metals are needed on ICE in their many small electric motors too.
Combustion car sales will fall because they will slowly stop making them. The push at a WW level to reduce Co2 etc will mean alternatives like electric will become the norm.
This one?
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/audi-will-live-vorsprung-durch-technik-ceo-dollner-vows
Some people will believe anything 😏
This probably is AI, but those tools are absolutely useless. Feed blocks of well known books in and they come back as AI generated.
on 3 and 4, ICE vehicles are likely to include more precious metals (rhodium, iridium, and platinum) because of the requirement for a catalytic converter. But all cars include them in electronic components, and fuel cell cars use most of all. More rare earth metals are required for EV production. These aren’t precious metals and are as abundant as copper and zinc. The name ‘rare earth’ comes from them being comparatively difficult to extract from their natural sources such as ores or salts.
lol
Absolutely no bias or self serving statements ever come from a company CEO. They want you to know the truth, regardless of the goals of their business strategy.
deleted
It’s an interesting thought by this CEO but I’d like a few more stats:
You only have to look at Done Deal to see that there are almost 100 EVs for sale that are nine years or older. And back then they were a tiny segment of the market. Only 420 were sold in 2016 (can't find figures from before then, but they must have been miniscule).
Bloody AI eh…I could smell something was fishy with the language in the article. At least there's a grain a truth to the story.
There's some bloody exciting EVs on the market at the moment with ever more impressive models launching all the time. Can't wait to make the move to be honest.
Lads, the internet is out there to confirm or deny possible made up stories. And this one may have been written by an AI, but it's based on an actual interview from Automotive News Europe. It's also carried elsewhere but ANE is referenced. The above jokers may have wanted to run this as if it was their own (and it's brought them to the top of the Google search), so used AI to disguise its origins.
The article is reserved for subscribers, but I have my ways.
Does Audi still plan to phase out the sale of combustion engines in Europe and North America by 2033? Yes, it stays that way. We will position ourselves well with a new generation of all-electric models, combustion engines and plug-in hybrids, and we will be able to act flexibly if necessary. But I don't think that will be necessary.
Does Audi still plan to phase out the sale of combustion engines in Europe and North America by 2033?
Yes, it stays that way. We will position ourselves well with a new generation of all-electric models, combustion engines and plug-in hybrids, and we will be able to act flexibly if necessary. But I don't think that will be necessary.
Why not? We will see significantly reduced sales volumes for combustion engines as early as 2026, so that the trick for us is an intelligent portfolio streamlining. Otherwise, the volumes per vehicle will be so low that it is no longer feasible, especially for suppliers. We are already standardizing components, but we will gradually leave certain segments and body styles for combustion-engine cars. Anything else would not make economic sense.
Why not?
We will see significantly reduced sales volumes for combustion engines as early as 2026, so that the trick for us is an intelligent portfolio streamlining. Otherwise, the volumes per vehicle will be so low that it is no longer feasible, especially for suppliers. We are already standardizing components, but we will gradually leave certain segments and body styles for combustion-engine cars. Anything else would not make economic sense.
Article is possibly made up, but new battery technology which is due to go into mass production next year will give standard range of 700-1000 km
Once that becomes embedded into EVs, the market will surge.
As for 10 year old ev in 2034. If priced right it will sell, just as any item. In many cases it will be a first car or the 2nd car in a household, just as many 10 year old ice cars are today.
I do about 35-40k a year. Almost certain to go for ev next car due to the much lower cost.
Wrong name for the CEO is fairly dodgy alright, but you would have thought if AI, that would at least get basic facts like that right.
I do admit I saw this in a YT video today, did a quick google and posted up the result. I didn't do any fact checking or anything. Apologies if this article turns out to be completely made up 😐️
Don't know why I bother is the worst type of response when someone disagrees with you. I did read what you wrote.
And they're not cheaper. Simpler, but not cheaper. Remember they're still subsidised by governments to get uptake.
New technologies have to be paid for by recouping R&D costs, someone has to pay for that.
I've got 2 EVs outside at the moment, I'm not a denier.
Article has been outed as AI now also. I knew it sounded nonsensical.
Spot on… (link to tool used)
Not sure why I bother when you don't even read what I wrote.
They're cheaper because the costs of manufacturing and logistics are cheaper. Just enumerate all the components that go into an ICE and compare with an EV. Even at the basic level. Inlet and exhaust systems - no. Fuel management systems, pumps, filters, pre-heaters - no, Exhaust management - no. The list goes on. Then take the engine and all its very expensive components compared to an electric motor. Add in a gearbox. Each one of those are massively expensive, but the deniers keep bleating on "but the batteries". It's hilarious.
And batteries are going to get cheaper very soon. New technologies like Aluminium Graphene are already ramping up with the intention of becoming directly swappable with existing tech. All while the current battery tech is getting cheaper too.
Yeah, can't see it. There's too many hurdles to be overcome in that time frame.
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wd.vanillicon.com/v2/de24be5a5d20cd5a9afa801bc3f979c4.svg)
