Funny that, I know a good few golfers over 70 who cycle to their club. They leave their clubs in the lockers and are big fan of the cycle lanes now. With electric bikes cycling is much easier for them.
I also know plenty who have no interest in Golf and Golf clubs but they don't spend their entire time on boards bitching about golf clubs.
Maisie and their complaints reeks of the same elderly peoples objections we've seen against the metrolink proposals in recent days. An appropriate Greek proverb came to mind regarding them and I think it fits suitably here too "A society grows great when old men plant tress under whose shade they will never sit". Following on with that metaphor Maisie like those against the metrolink doesnt want to allow anyone to plant any trees ever because they cant see the benefit as they wont use them.
I havent made any comment about the Metrolink, I wont use it, it wont impact where I live, isnt this the DL thread.
What has planting trees got to do with anything.
Closing off Tivoli Road and moving that traffic to Monkstown Farm is nuts, closing Lower Georges St to buses and taxis is beyond nuts.
Again what are the plans for Mrytle SQ at night time, what is going to fill that space from Sept to April, cold, wet snd dark.
I walk to DL now, go to the cinema and get the bus back outside the cinema. If i have to come out of the cinema to s deserted Square and make my way to the seafront to catch a bus, I wont do that, I will go to stillorgan cinema instead.
What golf clubs have cycle lanes to the lockers.
I never said you were against metrolink i was drawing a comparison between you and those who are against it versus you being against any change in the DL area. Also the tree thing was very obviously a metaphor I made that quite clear because i knew you would miss it unless i stated it plainly and even still you managed to not understand it....
Oh yes, carry a bag full of golf clubs, the trolley, the trolley battery, the golf shoes, the wet gear, clearly you have never played golf, dont have back, knee or hip issues, what a nice life you have.
According to you and im glad you find it more pleasant.
I find it congested and oppressive,
All the traffic is now gone to other roads, that is the point, it doesnt disappear.
Half the coastal road is unused most of the day and Tivoli Road is destroyed with traffic volumes.
More of this nonsense, not an older or disabled person in sight, sun shining, happy people stuffing their faces. Bikes and scooters discarded, benches packed together so someone in a wheelchair can just find somewhere else to go.
Benches arent usable by people with hip and knee problems so they can clear off too.
And this whats promised for DL which has a very aged population.
yeah, right.
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You have to be trolling now.
Taking space away from cars and giving it to people makes life so much easier for those in wheelchairs. The seafront (apart from the baths hiccup which tbf I think was exaggerated)
The new design of Myrtle Sq was a godsend, previously it was very narrow going up by the pub it would force me on the road, which wasn't safe with the taxis, so ended up usually trying to go up by Argos side but the pavement was in a bad way.
Now tonnes of space.
There are already cycle lanes on both sides of that road, why is more congestion being caused.
The result will be drivers going via convent road, avoca ave and priory to get to stillorgan, is anyone capable of joined up thinking.
I noticed on the N11 that all the paths that arent wide enough to be shared now have bike signs painted on them as if they are exclusively for cyclists,pedestrians have been whitewashed out, are pedestrians, wheelchair users, those with buggies meant to use the bus lane.
Going to email my local reps about this.
When is Deansgrange Road opening up to two way traffic again.
Traffic backed up on Newtownpark now and its only 3 pm, new bus connects stuck in it too.
Some poor devils are looking at their app wondering will their bus arrive, I have detoured into the Ardagh housing estate, poor bus driver cant do that, they are the unsung heroes of all this chaos, I dont know how they do it.
If they can’t drive on the standard road size, should they actually be driving? Are they really zig zagging all over the extra wide lane?
Don't forget the few pints in the Clubhouse before driving home, sure it's not that far really.
Is any of my post untrue?
And again how do you answer, at what age does one become an older person?
Do you even live in the area? It would seem not.
A cycle lane is not a half painted icon on a footpath, done years ago and hardly visible. Very dangerous for pedestrians. There are proper cycle lanes going in now.
Well if the traffic flowed both ways it would be twice as congested...
So I take it you would prefer no cars at all through the viilage, to remove all congestion?
That would be great indeed.
Which half isnt used on the coastal road during the day?
They atent installing new cycle lanes, I rang the council to enquire why were more cycle lanes going in when there are already cycle lanes on both sides of the road.
I was informed they are doing kerb work.
The cycle path, no one on it most days, too cold, wet, windy, its a waste of space thats causing issues elsewhere
Dont be silly, loads of people working in the shopping centre, if no cars it closes down.
i think your main priority is drinking coffee on the street, its not everybodys.
Also lots of buses need to travel through the village,so no closing it to suit coffee drinkers, not realistic.
The roads are narrowed to such an extent cars are squeezing past each others, the junctions are too tight too.
Accidents with older drivers ate inevitable, hope its not me and mine under the wheels.
So your preference is to remove the cycle lane from the coast and go back to 2 way traffic?
Its already one way traffic in Blackrock village.
Buses already have access to the village, using the one way aystem.
Thank you for the clarification.
Hopefully they are extending the kerbs to allow for proper cycle ways. Very dangerous as it is.
They are upgrading the cycle lanes. The road works will be on-going on Stillorgan Park for most of the year to deliver this upgrade, commencing with kerb work and other preparatory works (see https://www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/default/files/2024-02/Traffic%20News%2017th%20February%202024%20to%2023rd%20February%202024.pdf. for confirmation of this).
About time too, those old legacy cycle lanes are no longer fit for purpose.
The work on Stillorgan Park road is part of the Stillorgan Park Road Active Travel Scheme. Linked to the following I presume:
Maybe they shouldn't have bought huge tank-like vehicles for driving to mass and the golf club? I'm sure they can trade down to a vehicle size they can manage safely. If not, maybe driving is not for them.
JFC, she's having a go at benches now.
With less cars on the road, older people who do need to drive will have far less traffic to deal with - much safer for everyone, now that there are so many options for others.
Also Newtown Park Avenue is and has always been backed up even with deansgrange road closed...and yes especially at 3pm when the school on the road ends for the day...